[kj] Killing Language

P Bernardi gathering@misera.net
Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:58:22 -0500


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In Chicago, before launching into Fall of Because, Jaz said (and Im=20
paraphrasing here): "This is a song about waking up one day and knowing=20
everything around you is wrong. And having  to learn to unlearn=20
everything you've been taught."

Marie Lecocq wrote:

> Well, my mother tongue is French and I must say that lyrics are very=20
> important to me. It's funny that you should mention "Fall of because", =

> because it's one of the few songs that have always puzzled me=20
> (lyrically speaking). But now that someone is mentioning Aleister=20
> Crowley, I think it might get a bit clearer for me... Thanks, Stevie. :=
-)
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>     From: Tom Foolery <mailto:the_hum@hotmail.com>
>     To: gathering@misera.net <mailto:gathering@misera.net>
>     Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 3:21 PM
>     Subject: [kj] Killing Language
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>     An open question for all non-native English speakers onlist- how
>     important are Jaz's lyrics to you and how much do you understand?
>
>     The reason I asked is that during a prolonged attack of ennui I
>     translated the titles of all the songs on the first 3 albums into
>     finnish, and realised how far the literal translation was from the
>     meaning of the song. "Fall Of Because" was a particular pain in
>     the arse 'cos it doesn't make sense LITERALLY in any language, so
>     I settled for "J=E4rkeilyn Kukistuminen" (The Overthrow of Reasonin=
g).
>
>
>     luv from
>
>     Stimro
>
>     "Mummy, what's a Killing Joke?"
>
>     "A Whoopee cushion packed with Semtex"
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In Chicago, before launching into Fall of Because, Jaz said (and Im paraphrasing
here): "This is a song about waking up one day and knowing everything around
you is wrong. And having &nbsp;to learn to unlearn everything you've been taught."<br>
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Marie Lecocq wrote:<br>
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  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Well, my mother tongue is French and I
must say  that lyrics are very important to me. It's funny that you should
mention "Fall  of because", because it's one of the few songs that have always
puzzled me  (lyrically speaking). But now that someone is mentioning Aleister
Crowley, I  think it might get a bit clearer for me... Thanks, Stevie. :-)</font></div>
 
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    <p>An open question for all non-native English speakers onlist- how important
   are Jaz's lyrics to you and how much do you understand? </p>
   
    <p>The reason I asked is that during a prolonged attack of ennui I translated
   the titles of all the songs on the first 3 albums into finnish, and realised
   how far the literal translation was from the meaning of the song. "Fall
Of    Because" was a particular pain in the arse 'cos it doesn't make sense
   LITERALLY in any language, so I settled for "J&auml;rkeilyn Kukistuminen" (The
   Overthrow of Reasoning).<br>
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    <p><font face="Arial Black, Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif">luv    from</font></p>
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    <p><font face="Arial Black">Stimro</font></p>
      
    <p><font face="Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif"><em>"Mummy, what's a Killing
   Joke?"</em></font></p>
      
    <p><em>"A Whoopee cushion packed with Semtex"</em></p>
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