[kj] Re. .Our Last Goodbye?
Tim Bucknall
gathering@misera.net
Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:07:28 +0100
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it is a powerfull track & and a powerfull performance
Chris Vrenna does a great impression of BPF
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From: Sven Oliver Roth=20
To: gathering@misera.net=20
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Re. .Our Last Goodbye?
Yes, Alex, honestly!
For once, I have to disagree with you ;)
This track is IMHO definitely not utterly forgettable
for its drum section barrage which is withourt equal in any KJ track,
for its pounding bassline
but of course most of all for its lyrics.=20
Some time ago there was a discussion going on here if KJ had actually =
ever done something like a love song. Some folks went at great pains to =
reconsider some pretty aggessive, fierce, sex-oriented etc tracks as =
kinda love songs. I had some problems following that interpretation. OK, =
we remember this evocative line "do it out of love" in Struggle. But =
thats about fighting, ultimately out of love, but its not really about =
love itself. Lots of other tracks like Jana are very much about =
compassion. We have songs reveling in fond memories of Absent Friends or =
about going to where the lunatics roam in places of Lanterns of Hope.=20
But love between two individuals?
Now read these lyrics:
There's so much to say
And so little time
I'd like to say thank you
For the moments we shared
They open the blinds
I look through the window
Look into my eyes
And never let go
There is so much that you don't see
There is so much that you don't tell
I never told you how much I felt
Now I give you the full truth
Think only the best of me
Think only the best of me
There's only one thing you should know
Love is sweeter than death
And in the moment before you take your last breath
Catch my eye
When you know it's your last embrace
Then we'll say our last goodbyes
And in the moment before you take your last breath
Catch my eye
When you know it's your last embrace
Then we'll say our last goodbyes
In 1997 the USA carried out seventy four executions, the highest =
number for four decades. Only China, Saudi Arabia, and Iran were known =
to have executed more prisoners.=20
And in the moment before you take your last breath=20
Catch my eye
When you know it's your last embrace=20
Then we'll say our last goodbyes
And in the moment before you take your last breath=20
Catch my eye
When you know it's your last embrace=20
Then we'll say our last goodbyes
Killing Joke, Our Last Goodbye=20
=20
Gosh, someone posted here that he just started crying when first =
listening to "You will never get to me". As far as I am concerned, it =
was this track that really cought me emotionally. The last goodbye of a =
loving couple when one of them is going to be executed. You can almost =
see how they try to remain together, how the guards pull them apart.=20
And then towards the end of the track the melody carries on for a =
moment until suddenly the hellmachine of the drums and the bassline are =
immediately cut off by the sound of a heavy iron door being shut and =
locked.
I think this is neither cheap nor tacky nor forgettable. This was done =
with regard not to some anonymous suppressed masses but to three young =
innocent boys on death row in Mississipi.
Most of KJ exites me, much moves me but this one never seazes to touch =
my heart.. Had to get this of the same ;)
Cheers,
Sven
=20
>From: "Alex Smith"=20
>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net=20
>To: gathering@misera.net, gathering@misera.net=20
>Subject: Re: [kj] Re. .Our Last Goodbye?=20
>Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 08:50:05 -0500=20
>=20
>=20
>" I would even go so far as to say that this was one of their best =
pieces=20
>ever. "=20
>=20
>Hmmmm. Honestly? I think it's an utterly forgettable track.=20
>=20
>Alex in NYC=20
>=20
>=20
>----------=20
>From: "Sven Oliver Roth"=20
>To: gathering@misera.net=20
>Subject: Re: [kj] Re. .Our Last Goodbye?=20
>Date: Wed, Oct 8, 2003, 5:14 AM=20
>=20
>=20
>Yes, KJ reconvened in 1997 to contribute this amazing song to the =
West=20
>Memphis CD. Presently I listen to this amazing piece every morning. I =
would=20
>even go so far as to say that this was one of their best pieces ever. =
>=20
>I haven't seen this song anywhere for dowmload so far but got it as =
track=20
>No.9 on the "Aotearoa" CD which I bought quite recently on eBay. To =
my=20
>surprise I didn't get an "official CD" but a burned copy (although =
very=20
>nicely done). I wasn't pissed because of the great and completely =
unknown KJ=20
>material (includes also a KJ track made for Paul Verhoeven's movie =
Show=20
>Girls).=20
>=20
>If the guy who sold this item to me is here on the list, please =
e-mail me, I=20
>am curious and have a few questions ;)=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> >From: Mistress Raevyn=20
> >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net=20
> >To: gathering@misera.net=20
> >Subject: Re: [kj] Re. .Our Last Goodbye?=20
> >Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:12:34 -0700 (PDT)=20
> >=20
> >I believe it is on the The West Memphis 3 cd.=20
> >=20
> >MR=20
> >=20
> >MADELYLE@aol.com wrote:=20
> >Was the track "Our Last Goodbye" ever on any joke records.If so, =
which one?=20
>when did it come out?=20
> >i've just downloaded it and it's pretty damn good. I would just =
like to=20
>know where its place is on the KJ discography.=20
> >=20
> >Cheers=20
> >=20
> >Lyle=20
> >=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>it is a powerfull track & and a =
powerfull=20
performance</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris Vrenna does a great impression of =
BPF</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Drothsvenoliver@hotmail.com=20
href=3D"mailto:rothsvenoliver@hotmail.com">Sven Oliver Roth</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dgathering@misera.net=20
href=3D"mailto:gathering@misera.net">gathering@misera.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 10, 2003 =
5:34=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [kj] Re. .Our Last =
Goodbye?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P>Yes, Alex, honestly!</P>
<P>For once, I have to disagree with you ;)</P>
<P>This track is IMHO definitely not utterly forgettable</P>
<P>for its drum section barrage which is withourt equal in any KJ =
track,</P>
<P>for its pounding bassline</P>
<P>but of course most of all for its lyrics. </P>
<P>Some time ago there was a discussion going on here if KJ had =
actually ever=20
done something like a love song. Some folks went at great pains to =
reconsider=20
some pretty aggessive, fierce, sex-oriented etc tracks as kinda love =
songs. I=20
had some problems following that interpretation. OK, we remember this=20
evocative line "do it out of love" in Struggle. But thats about =
fighting,=20
ultimately out of love, but its not really about love itself. Lots of =
other=20
tracks like Jana are very much about compassion. We have songs =
reveling in=20
fond memories of Absent Friends or about going to where the lunatics =
roam in=20
places of Lanterns of Hope. </P>
<P>But love between two individuals?</P>
<P>Now read these lyrics:</P>
<P><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB style=3D"COLOR: #6633ff; mso-ansi-language: =
EN-GB">There's=20
so much to say<BR>And so little time<BR>I'd like to say thank =
you<BR>For the=20
moments we shared<BR>They open the blinds<BR>I look through the =
window<BR>Look=20
into my eyes<BR>And never let go<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB style=3D"COLOR: #6633ff; mso-ansi-language: =
EN-GB">There is=20
so much that you don't see<BR>There is so much that you don't =
tell<BR>I never=20
told you how much I felt<BR>Now I give you the full truth<BR>Think =
only the=20
best of me<BR>Think only the best of me<BR>There's only one thing you =
should=20
know<BR>Love is sweeter than death<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB style=3D"COLOR: #6633ff; mso-ansi-language: =
EN-GB">And in=20
the moment before you take your last breath<BR>Catch my eye<BR>When =
you know=20
it's your last embrace<BR>Then we'll say our last goodbyes<BR>And in =
the=20
moment before you take your last breath<BR>Catch my eye<BR>When you =
know it's=20
your last embrace<BR>Then we'll say our last =
goodbyes<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><I><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB style=3D"COLOR: #6633ff; mso-ansi-language: =
EN-GB">In=20
1997 the USA carried out seventy four executions, the highest number =
for four=20
decades. Only China, Saudi Arabia, and Iran were known to have =
executed more=20
prisoners.</SPAN></I><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"COLOR: #6633ff; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> =
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB style=3D"COLOR: #6633ff; mso-ansi-language: =
EN-GB">And in=20
the moment before you take your last breath <BR>Catch my eye<BR>When =
you know=20
it's your last embrace <BR>Then we'll say our last goodbyes<BR>And in =
the=20
moment before you take your last breath <BR>Catch my eye<BR>When you =
know it's=20
your last embrace <BR>Then we'll say our last =
goodbyes<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=3Dright><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"COLOR: #6633ff; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Killing Joke, =
<I>Our Last=20
Goodbye</I> </SPAN></P>
<P style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=3Dright><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"COLOR: #6633ff; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"></SPAN> </P>
<P style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=3Dright><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"COLOR: #6633ff; mso-ansi-language: =
EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Gosh, someone posted here that he =
just=20
started crying when first listening to "You will never get to =
me". As far=20
as I am concerned, it was this track that really cought me =
emotionally. The=20
last goodbye of a loving couple when one of them is going to be =
executed. You=20
can almost see how they try to remain together, how the guards pull =
them=20
apart. </SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">And then towards the end of the =
track the=20
melody carries on for a moment until suddenly the hellmachine of =
the=20
drums and the bassline are immediately cut off by the sound of a heavy =
iron=20
door being shut and locked.</SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I think this is neither cheap nor =
tacky nor=20
forgettable. This was done with regard not to some anonymous =
suppressed masses=20
but to three young innocent boys on death row in =
Mississipi.</SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Most of KJ exites me, much moves me =
but this=20
one never seazes to touch my heart.. Had to get this of the same=20
;)</SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Cheers,</SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Sven</SPAN></P>
<P><BR><BR> </P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>From: "Alex Smith" <VASSIFER@EARTHLINK.NET>
<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net=20
<DIV></DIV>>To: gathering@misera.net, gathering@misera.net=20
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: [kj] Re. .Our Last Goodbye?=20
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 08:50:05 -0500=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>" I would even go so far as to say that this was one of =
their=20
best pieces=20
<DIV></DIV>>ever. "=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>Hmmmm. Honestly? I think it's an utterly forgettable =
track.=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>Alex in NYC=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>----------=20
<DIV></DIV>>From: "Sven Oliver Roth" <ROTHSVENOLIVER@HOTMAIL.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>To: gathering@misera.net=20
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: [kj] Re. .Our Last Goodbye?=20
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Wed, Oct 8, 2003, 5:14 AM=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>Yes, KJ reconvened in 1997 to contribute this amazing =
song to=20
the West=20
<DIV></DIV>>Memphis CD. Presently I listen to this amazing piece =
every=20
morning. I would=20
<DIV></DIV>>even go so far as to say that this was one of their =
best pieces=20
ever.=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>I haven't seen this song anywhere for dowmload so far =
but got=20
it as track=20
<DIV></DIV>>No.9 on the "Aotearoa" CD which I bought quite recently =
on=20
eBay. To my=20
<DIV></DIV>>surprise I didn't get an "official CD" but a burned =
copy=20
(although very=20
<DIV></DIV>>nicely done). I wasn't pissed because of the great and=20
completely unknown KJ=20
<DIV></DIV>>material (includes also a KJ track made for Paul =
Verhoeven's=20
movie Show=20
<DIV></DIV>>Girls).=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>If the guy who sold this item to me is here on the =
list, please=20
e-mail me, I=20
<DIV></DIV>>am curious and have a few questions ;)=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>> >From: Mistress Raevyn=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net=20
<DIV></DIV>> >To: gathering@misera.net=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Subject: Re: [kj] Re. .Our Last Goodbye?=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:12:34 -0700 (PDT)=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >I believe it is on the The West Memphis 3 cd.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >MR=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >MADELYLE@aol.com wrote:=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Was the track "Our Last Goodbye" ever on any joke=20
records.If so, which one?=20
<DIV></DIV>>when did it come out?=20
<DIV></DIV>> >i've just downloaded it and it's pretty damn good. =
I would=20
just like to=20
<DIV></DIV>>know where its place is on the KJ discography.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Cheers=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >Lyle=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
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