[kj] o/t son of Thatcher

Rob's Arse joker at Z6.com
Sun Aug 29 14:08:55 EDT 2004 

If the extremists get their way.........

Bit of a catch all that Pete. You were saying that it "looks like they could succeed" when in actual fact it's not is it.?Extremeists don't really get their way in western democracys do they (and Bush is not extremist before someone says he is. He's just a twat).

Your point about Bin Laden isn't crackers. I quite agree with you that the Madnella situation appears crazy. He was a convicted terrorist. It was he who decided that the struggle should get violent. But given those circumstanmces, I think I would chuck a few too! To some, Bin Laden is already a hero and it is not unreasonable to think that he could become a leader of a state if the fact that, if he were captured alive, he'd never be released alive. You're thinking was off line. Anything is possible but let's stick with probable.

You original point was that Sharia law was gonna happen and limbs were coming off for punishment IN CANADA. Well they ain't. You are not going to have separate laws for separate communities.

I accept that you will get acceptance of certain practices that may be juxtaposed with the law (I'm thinking Seikhs and crash helemts where a practical issue collides with law) but whole hearted adoptian of Sharia law in Canada is a barmy proposition.

So you're slowly talking yourself out of this one. Good.

What next?

You've had a go at the Jews. Now you want to "send the Muslim's back".

The general point here Peter is that you are prone to making wild statements that border on the tasteless (I'm being generous here) which many people are finding uncomfortable. 

This all started because Thatcher seems to have been caught out on something. Maybe he will be proven not guilty, but his past is certainly shady. This is the question which you seem to have turned around quite nicely to express some rather extreme right wing views.

Be careful with your choice of language.


--- "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com> wrote:
No,not at the moment it's not,If the extremists get their way ,it will
happen in the future.
    In the next thirty years I can see BinLaden being released,to a heroes
welcome,After years off campaigning by his followers.He will tour the world
giving speeches about his years of struggle,their will be songs about
him,concerts and books..........Think Im crackers,It happened with Nelson
Mandela.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob's Arse" <joker at Z6.com>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] o/t son of Thatcher


>
>
> So it's legal for Muslims to stone adulterous women to death in Canada now
is it?
>
>
>
>
> --- "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> The Canadian Government has legitimised Sharia law,I did say for Muslim
> communities.Not as a general law,Canadian Laws come first.
>   But It is still recognised by the Canadian government.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob's Arse" <joker at Z6.com>
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 9:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [kj] o/t son of Thatcher
>
>
> > If you SERIOUSLY think that Sharia law would be legitamised by a Western
> government such as Canada you are, ineeded sir, an ass of the highest
order.
> >
> > We enjoy freedom of speech here. Let Abu Hamza have his say. It's an
> opinion. One which he is entitled too.(Illegal terrorist acts are a
> different matter). OK it's hateful and extreme but he is afforded the
right
> in this country to say it.
> > Just like you have the right to continue with your more and more
alarming
> posts.
> >
> > Do you have posters of Norman Tebbit on your wall?
> >
> >
> > --- "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > Dont be so vague,Which bit of what i post is shit?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rob's Arse" <joker at Z6.com>
> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > <gathering at misera.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 9:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [kj] o/t son of Thatcher
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > The world you want to live in would actually prevent you from spouting
> the
> > shit you so regularly do!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > > RE  "Then imagine vicious militia men - perhaps armed with
> > >  weapons supplied by Mark Thatcher - marching into your
> > >  town, torching everything, maybe raping and killing
> > >  your family, perhaps hacking off a child's limbs in
> > >  front of you, before taking you out and shooting you"
> > >
> > > *Yes I can imagine that happening,That's why Abu Hamza and all his
> > followers
> > > should be expelled from England.Do you realise Muslims are trying too
> > > install Sharia law into Canada,And it looks like they could
succeed.That
> > law
> > > is where amputations are punishment,Women who are abused by men get
> stoned
> > > too death(not ,that kind of stoned Cliff)for being a victim.
> > >    If it gets installed into Canada it's only a matter of time before
> ,It
> > > will spread to other Islamic communities in other countries*
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Neil Perry" <neilfperry at btinternet.com>
> > > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > > <gathering at misera.net>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 5:01 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [kj] o/t son of Thatcher
> > >
> > >
> > > > --- "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >     There is far too many people living in
> > > > > Africa
> > > > >
> > > > > Ah, Peter - I sincerely hope you were just saying
> > > > this to provoke
> > > > a response, and don't actually believe it. Substitute
> > > > 'England' for Africa and it would be more accurate.
> > > > Then imagine vicious militia men - perhaps armed with
> > > > weapons supplied by Mark Thatcher - marching into your
> > > > town, torching everything, maybe raping and killing
> > > > your family, perhaps hacking off a child's limbs in
> > > > front of you, before taking you out and shooting you.
> > > > And if you are still so keen on war, you should be
> > > > careful what you wish for.
> > > > N
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Neil Perry" <neilfperry at btinternet.com>
> > > > > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> > > > > band!)"
> > > > > <gathering at misera.net>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 3:16 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [kj] o/t son of Thatcher
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Humanity? This person has spent his 'career'
> > > > > selling
> > > > > > arms to mercenaries/tinpot dictators and wiping
> > > > > out
> > > > > > 'humanity'. He's killed more people than cancer.
> > > > > > Nothing to do with his parentage - in fact you're
> > > > > > right, I hope he doesn't die in a prison - I hope
> > > > > he
> > > > > > stays just alive enough to suffer. And if you
> > > > > think
> > > > > > union members are parasites, what do you call
> > > > > someone
> > > > > > who gets rich off the countless vicious little
> > > > > African
> > > > > > wars that cause so much misery and destruction?
> > > > > Mark
> > > > > > Thatcher is a scum-sucking piece of crap.
> > > > > > N
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  --- "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > It's unfortunate that you judge someone ,before
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > trial or anything.Just
> > > > > > > because someone gets arrested doesn't mean they
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > guilty.
> > > > > > >     Or do you think Children should be held
> > > > > > > accountable for their parents
> > > > > > > lifes.If that is your reasoning then MT should
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > released immediately
> > > > > > > ,because Maggie Thatch achieved some great
> > > > > > > things,She destroyed the
> > > > > > > unions(parasites),sold off council houses thus
> > > > > > > destroying scummy council
> > > > > > > estates,Kicked the argies arses and even
> > > > > produced
> > > > > > > her own phallic
> > > > > > > symbol(Canary Wharf)
> > > > > > >      She was unpopular,But she sinle-handedly
> > > > > pulled
> > > > > > > the U.K.out of the far
> > > > > > > left labour induced recession ,a case of "Being
> > > > > > > cruel too be kind".
> > > > > > >       If you would like anybody too be put in a
> > > > > "
> > > > > > > Dark African jail and
> > > > > > > butt-fucked too death",Then I suggest you plug
> > > > > > > yourself into the internet
> > > > > > > and download a bit of humanity.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Neil Perry" <neilfperry at btinternet.com>
> > > > > > > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> > > > > > > band!)"
> > > > > > > <gathering at misera.net>
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 4:58 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [kj] o/t son of Thatcher
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best news I've heard in a long time. Fuck him,
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > greasy
> > > > > > > > little arms-dealing scumbag. I've often
> > > > > wondered
> > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > long it would
> > > > > > > > be before his own stupidity would drop him in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > shit. The icing on
> > > > > > > > the cake was after he got arrested, he was in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > holding cell in court
> > > > > > > > and he was robbed by the other prisoners, they
> > > > > > > took
> > > > > > > > his shoes, jacket and mobile. I hope he gets
> > > > > put
> > > > > > > away
> > > > > > > > in some dank forgotten South African prison
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > gets
> > > > > > > > buttfucked to death.
> > > > > > > > Now watch his lawyers help him squirm out of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > whole
> > > > > > > > thing...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > N, full of the joys of life
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- woody2shooz <woody2shooz at yahoo.co.uk>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > lost in Africa
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ...again? What is this Grantham gened family
> > > > > up
> > > > > > > to?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > graham>
> > > > > > > >
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