[kj] OT: Fuck Hip Hop - well not all of it

[Alexander Smith]

Not that it's not a compelling debate, Peter, but with Mik Raven  
absent, I can't summon the stamina to get into it here again.

I'll just cite two names to cement my point: THE RAMONES and RICHARD  
HELL.

Alex in NYC



On Saturday, October 16, 2004, at 08:42 PM, peter.west410 wrote:

> "As was Punk Rock".
>
> No way,It may have been conceived in NY,But it was born & breed in the  
> UK.
>
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> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Fuck Hip Hop - well not all of it
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>
> I never got what they were about. Just didn't.
> I have always found them totally alien.
> Whiney brats.
>
> Saw ice Cube once too.Reading festival. So lame it was embarassing.
>
> --- Mark G Holt <akillingjoker at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> From: Mark G Holt <akillingjoker at yahoo.co.uk>
> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 21:05:04 +0100 (BST)
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Fuck Hip Hop - well not all of it
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>
> i love the beasties too, alex, for what its worth
>
>
> Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>   For what it's worth, I think Eminem may indeed be clever --- BUT I'M
>   FUCKIN' SICK OF HIM!
>
>   Hip Hop I *DO* actually like, despite my genre-sweeping condemnation:
>
>   Public Enemy, Wu-Tang Clan, Busta Rhymes, Jurassic 5, Nas, (some)
>   Jay-Z, (some) Geto Boys, and I used to quite enjoy the first record  
> by
>   Das Efx. MC Paul Barman, incidentally, is a thousand times more
>   entertaining than Eminem. And I'll always love the Beastie Boys
>   (although they've really become a genre unto themselves).
>
>   Yeah, Hip Hop was born in NYC. As was Punk Rock. That NYC is long  
> dead
>   and gone.
>
>   Fuck KRS-One, though.
>
>   Alex in NYC
>
>
>
>   On Saturday, October 16, 2004, at 11:14 AM, Mark G Holt wrote:
>
>> That's the Gathering...room for everyone with every opinion and you're
>> entitled to yours Leigh....
>> We may not agree but w hat the hell
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> Leigh Newton wrote:
>>
>> Me, that's who. Fuck Eminem. Joyless cocksucker that
>> he is.
>>
>> Leigh
>>
>> --- Mark G Holt wrote:
>>
>>> got to agree here
>>> straight outta compton is awesome, and who honestly
>>> doesnt either like or respect eminem?
>>> then there's the gravel pit.....it's not hip hop
>>> that's wrong. it's what some people say without
>>> thinking, i believe
>>> as for yoga etc, try taoism, it's working for me....
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> mark
>>>
>>>
>>> Devacor at aol.com wrote:
>>> In a message dated 10/14/2004 5:23:48 PM Eastern
>>> Daylight Time, vassifer at earthlink.net writes:
>>> KRS-One, decency zero
>>>
>>> If Osama Bin Laden ever buy s a rap album, he'll
>>> probably start with a
>>> CD by KRS-One.
>>>
>>> The hip-hop anarchist has declared his solidarity
>>> with Al Qaeda by
>>> asserting that he and other African-Americans
>>> "cheered when 9/11
>>> happened."
>>>
>>> The rapper, whose real name is Kris Parker, defiled
>>> the memory of those
>>> who died in the terrorist attacks as he spouted off
>>> at a recent New
>>> Yorker Festival panel discussion.
>>>
>>> I was always let down by KRS- he actually was raised
>>> by parents who were trained in mystic yoga and he
>>> was brought up that way. He named was actually
>>> Krishna, which he changed to kris and "KRS" - he has
>>> a lot of insight but wound up just getting
>>> sidetracked by sentiment.
>>> I recently just rebought the first NWA "Straight
>>> ou tta Compton"- its great. I remember my jaw dropped
>>> when I heard it when it first came out. It just came
>>> outta nowhere and nothing has ever come close.
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