[kj] The Fanatic
Phillipps Marc
Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk
Wed Oct 20 05:09:23 EDT 2004
>Trust me. I'm not as stupid as I look.
*bites tongue*
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob's Arse [SMTP:joker at Z6.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 4:12 PM
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: RE: [kj] The Fanatic
>
> Oh fucking hell! ;-)
>
> I was saying that it is between OTG and Extremities but it lacked the
> punch of the later hence it didn't get on the album. I wasn't saying it
> was not as punchy as OTG.
>
> It's an average song. I've heard the studio version. It's still average.
>
> Trust me. I'm not as stupid as I look.
>
> --- first fossil <firstfossil at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> From: first fossil <firstfossil at yahoo.co.uk>
> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:08:33 +0100 (BST)
> To: joker at Z6.com, "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Subject: RE: [kj] The Fanatic
>
>
>
> Pedestrian? We're talking about the same one? It's way punchier and more
> immediate than Outside the Gate, it hit me in the right place first
> time I heard it. I'd say it was in the same waters as Seeing Red or
> Extremities (the song).
> Was it too controversial? More interesting a song speculating on
> martyrdom than one of those nostalgia trips.
>
> Rob's Arse <joker at Z6.com> wrote:
>
> Are you cock!
>
> The Fanatic didn't get on Extremities cos it's pretty lame in comparison.
> The tempo and performance is pedestrian. Same goes for the original
> version of solitude. Maybe a bit more work might have kicked theminto
> shape but I would wager that they wrer writtena s a reaction to OTG but
> then Geordie/Jaz said "We can do better".
>
>
>
>
>
> --- "Paul Rangecroft" <killing_j0ke at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: "Paul Rangecroft" <killing_j0ke at hotmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:58:32 +0000
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: RE: [kj] The Fanatic
>
> maybe i am thick, as i just don't hear it. in what sense is the structure
> more OTG? which songs on OTG are you thinking of in particular? which
> parts
> of these songs have a similar structure? it has a very simple structure,
> basic geordie spine-tingler riff (can't say that about anything on OTG,
> maybe 'obsession' at a push), chorus, middle eight. it's surely more like
> a
> typical NIGHT TIME track in that sense. that early version of 'solitude',
> i'd say that was more of a precursor. quite a bit of the EXTREMITIES stuff
>
> was written back in '88, possibly even before then. many of the songs that
>
> ended up on the album were played live repeatedly through '89, before the
> album was released, along with 'the fanatic'. it would have slotted in
> very
> neatly on ED&VRE but would have stuck out like a sore thumb on OTG. if
> there
> is a bridge between the two albums then it's track 11 on the latter - the
> segue from the haunting coleman composition 'kaliyuga' into defiant
> "full-stop followed by an exclamation mark" anthem 'struggle'.
>
> todd, back me up, man! am i right or am i right?
>
> >From: Rob's Arse <joker at Z6.com>
>
> Cos the song structure is more OTG but the delivery is harder. It's a
> precursor to Extremities.
>
> You thick or something?
>
> --- "Paul Rangecroft" <killing_j0ke at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: "Paul Rangecroft" <killing_j0ke at hotmail.com>
>
> how does it bridge the gap between OTG and EXTREMITIES?
>
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