[kj] OT: The great Punk Debate culture theives read ; >

[Alexander Smith]

One day, I will set you on fire and laugh as your burn.

Alex in NYC



On Monday, October 25, 2004, at 03:35 PM, peter.west410 wrote:

> The Ramones,Are you sure?They were just a good-time college rock 
> band,The
> only people who liked them were geeky kids at high-school.What did they
> stand for? Gabba-Gabba -Hey.
>     They are one of the few bands who have sold more T-Shirts then 
> albums.
>     They were just a parody of themselves,I ve seen more caricature 
> drawings
> of them than I ve seen actual photos.
>    They were a cartoon band ,belonging in the same group as The
> Simpsons,Beavis &Bergkamp and The Monkeys.
>   And the way he used to sing,(Well, wine actually)through his nose is
> sooooo annoying.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ketracel White" <ketracelwhite at hotmail.com>
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 11:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The great Punk Debate culture theives read ; >
>
>
>>> From AMG (All Music Guide):
>>
>> "The Ramones are the first punk rock band. Other bands, such as the
> Stooges
>> and the New York Dolls, came before them and set the stage and 
>> aesthetic
> for
>> punk, and bands that immediately followed, such as the Sex Pistols, 
>> made
> the
>> latent violence of the music more explicit, but the Ramones 
>> crystallized
> the
>> musical ideals of the genre."
>>
>> God Bless America.
>> -KW
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Matthew Burke" <marsboy1 at msn.com>
>> To: <gathering at misera.net>
>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 1:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The great Punk Debate culture theives read ; >
>>
>>
>>> Louis Armstrong also invented the Big Mac, and would have approved of
>>> pre-emptive wars.
>>>
>>> New Rose and Blitzkrieg Bop were both released in 1976.  Are we 
>>> counting
>>> months, or is there some secret knowledge I'm not aware of?
>>>
>>> There is also a question as to whether Patti Smith's 'Hey Joe' was 
>>> the
>> first
>>> punk single, released in 1974.
>>>
>>> Other instances of a lack of American culture:
>>>
>>> Blues
>>> Jazz
>>> Twain
>>> Kerouac
>>> Pollock
>>> Frank Lloyd Wright
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com>
>>>> Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The great Punk Debate culture theives read ; >
>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:51:37 +0100
>>>>
>>>> Yes Im sure they were .Like the Ramones ,There are many bands and
> persons
>>>> who have been an influence.
>>>>      But like the time Louie Armstrong landed on the moon and 
>>>> planted
>> the
>>>> stars and stripes and thus claiming a first for America,The Damned's
> New
>>>> Rose single was the first Punk singles and thus claiming punk for
>> England.
>>>> JUST BECAUSE YOU GOT NO CULTURE OF YOUR OWN,STOP TRYING TO STEAL 
>>>> OURS.
>>>>
>>>> (Has Rowland Rat gone yet?)
>>>>
>>>>  PW
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tim Bucknall" <tim.bucknall at btinternet.com>
>>>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 6:30 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The great Punk Debate tea sippers read ; >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Matthew Burke" <marsboy1 at msn.com>
>>>>> To: <gathering at misera.net>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 7:28 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The great Punk Debate tea sippers read ; >
>>>>>
>>>>>> And here's a new twist in favor of the tea sippers, I believe that
>>>>> somehow,
>>>>>> some way, The Who were also a big influence on punk rock.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> absolutely no doubt about it
>>>>>
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