[kj] ot - land of the free

[peter.west410]

To be honest its just the inconvenience ,But i don't mind suffering
inconvenience as long as it achieves something,I did nt  mind being stuck on
a bus when people were marching about global warming.But did the weather
improve?.............No.       We still have to go to mainland Europe to get
a suntan.
   Which proves marching achieves nothing and is therefore pointless.


----- Original Message -----
From: "sade1" <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] ot - land of the free


>    So are you against marching protests because of their annoyance, or
because,
> in general, you find them ineffective and therefore not worth the
annoyance?
>
> "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> "But if Peter doesn't want
> demonstrations because they get in his way how long before the principle
> leads to not having gigs because the noise offends someone"
>
> I think you ll find that gigs aren't allowed if the noise offends
> anyone,Gigs at all concert places are subject to strict noise controls.
> If people want to demonstrate ,let them, But I don't want to see or hear
> them.Every week-end in London someone's marching somewhere and no one
takes
> a blind bit of notice of their cause,They just cause traffic congestion
and
> get in the way.
> And what does it achieve?nothing .1 million people marched against the
> war,What effect did it have? None.Why cant they march around the
> countryside,Or will people complain the cows might get pissed off.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick Davies"
>
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>
> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 9:10 AM
> Subject: RE: [kj] ot - land of the free
>
>
> Peter, even by your standards this is the biggest load of shite ive
> read.
>
> At the start you are talking about America who have a different set of
> rules to what you are used to. They are citizens and not subjects like
> us in the good old uk. The US listers can tell you more about what their
> 1st etc amendments mean than I can.
>
> In referencing of majorities, there is no proportional representation
> and so the comment is nonsensical. In the case of Bush, the vast
> majority of voters voted against him and only the Florida farce allowed
> him into office.
>
> " If I'm trying to get somewhere,I don't want demonstrations blocking my
> path." Where does one persons freedom start and another end? I heard a
> great quote in California concerning smoking in public places. When
> asked about the freedom of smokers to smoke, the waitress said that
> their freedom stopped at her nose. But if Peter doesn't want
> demonstrations because they get in his way how long before the principle
> leads to not having gigs because the noise offends someone?
>
> iPat
> -----Original Message-----
> From: peter.west410 [mailto:peter.west410 at ntlworld.com]
> Sent: 08 September 2004 17:55
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] ot - land of the free
>
> You did nt have a permit to demonstrate,You broke the law. You got
> arrested.
> 200 people walking together in ones and two's..................yeah
> right.
> You went for an illegal protest,You went for a riot,You got
> arrested,Then you start weeping about human rights.
> If You break laws ,You get in trouble,It's that simple.
> If I'm trying to get somewhere,I don't want demonstrations blocking my
> path.
> People vote for what they want,If you don't like what the majority
> wants,Bad
> luck.
>
> . . . . . . .
> To all the rain and the thunder
> I'm headed into the sun,
> I wanna be there when you come....
>
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