[kj] OT Sober, so Good

[peter.west410]

I sincerely did nt know Cliff was having a difficult time.How would I ?.The
last personal E-mails I exchanged with Cliff,We agreed we'd share a beer
,(if we are ever in the same city at the same time).I'm sure Cliff was nt
offended ,But if he was,He knows i was nt trying to be offensive.
    But if he did take offence then I sincerely apologise.
  PW



----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Smith" <vassifer at earthlink.net>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT Sober & Moving


>
> Being dumb & insensitive *DOES* equate with being a dick in my book.
> And perhaps I was presuming that you'd paid more attention to Cliff's
> posts in the past and "knew" him better than you might (and were
> deliberately making light of his difficult time). In any event, his
> struggles with sobriety aren't something to joke about.
>
> But whatever. This isn't worth choking the list with. If I was jumping
> the gun, I apologize. Of course, you too could stop making excuses and
> apologize to Cliff, but I'm not expecting you to.
>
> Alex in NYC
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 14, 2004, at 02:37 PM, peter.west410 wrote:
>
> > I suppose being dumb& insensitive is a promotion from being a dick,
> > actually I posted it just after I woke up and just before I left for
> > work.And my computer doesn't do "Tones"like your one seems to be able
> > too.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alexander Smith" <vassifer at earthlink.net>
> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > <gathering at misera.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 7:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT Sober & Moving
> >
> >
> >>
> >> You couldn't tell from the tone of Cliff's posts that his situation
> >> isn't exactly a laughing matter? You're dumber and more insensitive
> >> than I thought.
> >>
> >> Alex in NYC
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, September 14, 2004, at 01:30 PM, peter.west410 wrote:
> >>
> >>> I take it from your furrow browed replies,That I misunderstood the
> >>> situation,I don't know the extent of Cliffs drinking.My reply was as
> >>> in
> >>> ,when someone says "I'm not feeling well",And you reply" Get well
> >>> soon".
> >>>     And If Cliff drinks too much,I did nt mean it as, keep on
> >>> drinking
> >>> too
> >>> much,rather enjoy yourself.
> >>>
> >>> I'm just glad you two were nt customs inspectors when Oscar Wilde
> >>> arrived:Did you pack your genius yourself ,Mr Wilde?
> >>>
> >>> PW
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Andreas Misera" <misera at misera.net>
> >>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> >>> <gathering at misera.net>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:09 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Sober & Moving
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> gotta agree with alex here.
> >>>>
> >>>> -a.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Alexander Smith wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You're a dick, Peter. Sincerely.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alex in NYC
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tuesday, September 14, 2004, at 02:10 AM, peter.west410 wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> "Anyway,i'm sober "
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Im sorry to hear that Cliff............I hope you get drunk again
> >>> soon.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> PW
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ---- Original Message -----
> >>>>>> From: "antifrz" <antifrz at alaska.net>
> >>>>>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> >>>>>> <gathering at misera.net>
> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 11:01 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: [kj] OT Sober & Moving
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Woo it's been a while since i last wrote the gathering.Anyway,i'm
> >>>>>> sober and
> >>>>>> moving back east in october.Maybe see ya around.
> >>>>>> Will stay on as a gathering list member,but can't tell ya what my
> >>>>>> address
> >>>>>> will be for da future right now.Other than that,i'm dealing with
> >>>>>> many
> >>>>>> life
> >>>>>> changes and sorting it ouuut,as we speak,haha.
> >>>>>> Complete maddness,but it's really a blessing to me,cause i am
> >>>>>> feeling
> >>>>>> good,haha.Will write again when i get back to the east coast.I'm
> >>>>>> not
> >>>>>> gonna
> >>>>>> miss below zero winter in Alaska,haha.Peace,CliffMonk-A
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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