[kj] atkins latest swindle

[sakarijuola at netti.fi]

I think NOISE was quite independent in the 80's, maybe 90's too, but was 
then later sold to Sanctuary... what comes to AGR, as far as I know it 
was(/is?) a (German?) label specialized in publishing punk etc. records 
in Europe... I think for example a number of Black Flag and Misfits 
records were released in Europe under AGR label which again was linked 
to NOISE Intl. in a way or another...

Yes, the NOISE artists were mainly metal... Celtic Frost was great! I 
still listen to their first 3 or 4 albums... even bought them anew when 
they were re-released on CD a few years ago 'cause the old vinyls were 
already so scratched...


> Mine is on Noise International, and has the Invisible logo in the booklet, 
> above where it says "Invisible Management". I'd be surprised if anyone out 
> there has a copy on the Invisible label itself (as Martin would've 
> definately re-packaged it with some shitty remixes, a new cover, and 
charged
> $40 for it.)
> 
> Prior to Extremities coming out, I talked to Jaz and Martin about the 
> Courtald Talks, which is on Invisible. Jaz had a chuckle at the spelling 
> mistakes on the sleeve... Martin groaned and made faces. When I asked if 
> Extremities was gonna come out on Invisible, I immediately sensed this 
was a
> sensitive topic. Jaz said something vague about "building bridges" and 
> Martin sat silent. I'm sure Martin would've LOVED to have had the 
album, but
> it seems to reside with Noise Records who are an offshoot of Sanctuary.
> 
> For shits n'giggles I wrote to them, asking about a possible 
> remaster/reissue. Not holding my breath, though.
> 
> T.
> 
> >From: "Tim Bucknall" <tim.bucknall at btinternet.com>
> >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
> ><gathering at misera.net>
> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
> ><gathering at misera.net>
> >Subject: Re: [kj] atkins latest swindle
> >Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 18:07:26  0100
> >
> >well my copy of extremities credits Invisible artist management and has the
> >invisible logo,other than that i don't know
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Christof hamille" <wessidetempest at hotmail.com>
> >To: <gathering at misera.net>
> >Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 5:34 PM
> >Subject: Re: [kj] atkins latest swindle
> >
> >
> > > I swear on my grave that I have seen a Extremities release with the
> > > Invisible tag on it.  Can anyone verify this and/or what is the story?
> > >
> > > Does he do these sort of things until he gets caught?  OR was he owed
> > > royalties so he was licensed a limited run? Which I could see since the
> > > original label it was on has had some mismanagement issues (from my
> > > understanding).
> > >
> > > So at thsi point what could Atkins do to redeem himself?  If he was to
> > > (essentially) shut up and play the drums in a REAL and GOOD band that he
> > > does not having recording and mixing controls over would that help?
> > > Everything he has done in the last 15 years has been collaborative.  And
> > > that only gets so far.  Quite leaching off of the past.  He sucked that
> >well
> > > dry long ago.  No one even notices or cares anymore.
> > >
> > > Could he ever drum again for Killing Joke?
> > > NIN ( even though he really didn't, showing up in a video doesn't 
> >count)?
> > > Ministry?
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > >From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
> > > >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > > ><gathering at misera.net>
> > > >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > > ><gathering at misera.net>
> > > >Subject: Re: [kj] atkins latest swindle
> > > >Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 10:00:33 -0400
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >They seemed a bit bootleggy and, let's face it, too good to be true.
> >You'd
> > > >think Martin would've known better (especially considering he was
> >basically
> > > >selling PiL ephemera from a period when he *wasn't* in the band.)
> > > >
> > > >Alex in NYC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Thursday, August 4, 2005, at 05:15 AM, Tim Bucknall wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>the latest on the PiL DVD he was selling : they are bootleg DVD-R's of
> >
> > > >>very
> > > >>generated tapes of tv shows
> > > >>the 1989 show has terrible audio quality (camcorder mic)
> > > >>i Think Lydon  will soon Tear MA a new one!
> > > >>
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