[kj] OT: Tookie and Arnie

[gingoblin at easynet.co.uk]

I just fail to see what "good" was extracted from killing him. Is the world 
safer? Do the families of the people he supposedly killed feel better? Are 
there people thinking "no, I won't commit crimes 'cos i might get 
executed"?  Oh sorry, I forgot, The Terminator gets to please all the 
bloody-thirsty, revenge-driven pricks he counts as votes.
The death penalty is just fucked.

Oh and if he was just trying to get a reprieve by pretending to be a man of 
peace... even if he WAS... I don't see how the State killing him has had 
any positive effect. By all accounts, William's writing DID have some good 
effect, even if he was faking it like you think Tim.  We'll certainly never 
know now.

It still amazes me a "civilised" (yeah, I know) country like the US still 
has the death penalty. Then again, with all the killing-for-peace going on, 
nothing should surprise me these days.




At 13:57 13/12/2005 +0000, you wrote:

>Been on death row for 24 years that s a long trip of convenience &&&
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>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Tookie and Arnie
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>yeah but he only started his "peace" work after he was put on death row, 
>pretty damn convenient
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>I find is gross that Schwarznager (who cares if I can't spell his name), 
>the moron actor, Nazi sympathizer, sexual harrasser, anti-immigrant 
>racist, and budget cutter, has killed a multiple Nobel prize nominee who's 
>tried to correct his ways by keeping children out of gangs (he's written 
>several books for kids on the issue). Only in the good-ole-USA.
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>kill the gangster bastard!
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>Subject: [kj] OT: Tookie and Arnie
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> > And today's big issue is: Should Tookie have been put to death?
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> > I don't know enough about the facts to say at the moment. Not that it > 
> matters.
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> > Is it true that it was his lawyers that nominated him for the Nobel 
> Peace > Prize? That's what someone on the BBC website said, but then 
> that's about > as reliable a source as The Gathering ;)
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> > Nick
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