[kj] semi-OT: Music vs. Message

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Sun Jan 16 20:11:27 EST 2005


age of greed and total invasion aren't endorsements!

how simplistic


and no it isn't surprising people miss construe lyrics or the irony 
slips their conscious grasp but so often efforts to reason and react 
are endevors undertaken by sentients

























On 14 Jan 2005 at 20:50, first fossil wrote:

Killing Joke isn'treally apolitical group like Biafra et al.I've 
always lovedthe throat grabbing combat songs (Age of Greed, Total 
Invasion etc) but there are too manyinconsistencies and, from what 
you hear, the band membersdon'thave the integrity. KJ can be 
politically provocative and passionate stuff butthere's nofirm 
overriding politicalmessageso it'snot outlandishthatthere should 
be Bushistas or whatever who get off on the music.

fluwdot at earthlink.net wrote:
    why twits like this complain?
    
    they don't want to hear political commentary yet the music is largely
    political commentary. how can they stand to listen to the music in
    the first place?
    because they can not comprehend they lyrics.
    
    
    the music is a message
    
    
    
    
    
    
    On 14 Jan 2005 at 2:41, Alex Smith wrote:
    
    
    
    I know it seems like I'm harping on this issue, but whilst perusing
    around the `Net this evening I found a interesting exchange on the
    Club Devo site in the letters column that mirrors a discussion we had
    here only a couple of weeks back regarding the arguable incongruity
    of
    being both a Killing Joke fan and Bush voter. I've always maintained
    that Killing Joke and Devo -- while musically not exactly simillar --
    share a great deal in the conceptual/lyrical and philosophical
    department. In any case, I found this interesting, so maybe y'all
    will too. Read on, Spuds! - Alex "Duty Now for the Future" in NYC
    
    posted 8/8/2004:
    Subject: Just Wondering
    
    Q: Hi -- I'm a Devo fan from way back and I was really enjoying the
    NY
    show on HD Net just now. However, I am also a Republican and I am
    wondering why there had to be negative jabs against Republicans. In
    fact, I don't understand why there has to be any political commentary
    at all.
    
    Now don't freak out -- I am not an evil right winger denying you your
    right to free speech. But I guess when I tune in to see you playing
    music at a concert -- that's what I am expecting: you playing music
    at a concert. I just don't really care what your political views are
    -- no matter what they are. I mean I was just tuning in to see the
    concert and hear the music. Isn't that why all those people were
    there for, too?
    
    Sincerely,
    
    Maureen Leader - maureen.leader at verizon.net
    
    A: It's amazing you can like a band that stands for justice and
    liberty and science and logic and still vote for an evil regime that
    wants to destroy what's left of democracy, destroy the separation of
    church and state, attack the bill of rights, eliminate a woman's
    right
    to choose, deny humane scientific research, steal from seniors,
    destroy the environment to keep oil cronies rich and in short
    institute a form of Christian fundamentalism that is only slightly
    less heinous than the authoritarian beliefs of the Taliban. Go ahead
    and vote for a dim-witted, mean spirited, menial son of a CIA man who
    is on the wrong side of every issue that matters to the future of
    humans on the planet earth. This isn't about democrats and
    republicans
    (there's really no difference there). This is about the end of humane
    values in our life time. Do you wear a backwards baseball cap and
    drive a Hummer 2? Remember! Free dom of choice is what you've got.
    Freedom from choice is what you want! -- Gerald V. Casale , Devo Inc.
    
    
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