i was there last week. ho hum could have shown the world my bum On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:41:20 EST, Devacor at aol.com > http://www.westland.net/piercam/- here are the LA webcams. This one is at > the Santa Monica pier and they should be a link on that one for the Venice > Beach one. I was just there a few weeks ago. -- iPat live for today, live for tomorrow