[kj] Pantheism v. theism?(Match postponed)

[ade]

"a mind controlled by anger that
abides in a state of self-induced mental agony (i.e. peter west's)
doesn't know the meaning of the word "free.""

The sad fact is that people don't end-up like that due to their own choice.
Something
has made them turn out like that. Sometimes the side-effects of being in
this state can
make one appear to be a total cvnt & lose you friends, family, etc.

Ultimately, perception is all - ACT like a cvnt / you ARE a cvnt.


ade.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of Paul Rangecroft
  Sent: 17 March 2005 11:04
  To: Geordie Wanker; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
  Subject: Re: [kj] Pantheism v. theism?(Match postponed)


  Very Good.You ve got me off to a tee.Apart from a few glaring errors ,Its
quite convincing.
          PR666



  Geordie Wanker <spud.u.hate at gmail.com> wrote:
    i won't bother with the grammar since i've only got an hour but i'll
    give the buddhist perspective if anyone is interested. reject, agree,
    ponder or question as you please:

    there are more hungry spirits on the planet than people. we just don't
    have the karma to see them directly. some people do have the karma to
    see particular spirits, e.g. the ghost rob moss saw.

    enlightened beings are watching us all the time but they never judge us.

    humans did not evolve from bacteria but arise in depence upon causes,
    mainly giving, moral discipline and patience. the continuum of the
    mind has no beginning and all sentient beings wander from life to life
    without much freedom or control, sometimes they are born as animals,
    sometimes human, sometimes in hell etc. it is not possible for
    something formless, i.e. the mind, to arise from form, e.g. t he body.
    there is a relationship between the mind and body, of course, but this
    ends at death.

    buddhism in no way functions to enslave people or make them
    subservient. the statement below is hopelessly ignorant and too
    sweeping a generalisation. buddhism, if applied correctly, causes no
    problems whatsoever and can only function to make people happier.
    other religions have no inherent characteristics from their own side
    but can be used for good or evil, it just depends on your motivation.
    how can christian teachings on, for example, compassion possibly cause
    any sort of problems??? if religion is misused that is not the fault
    of the religion but of the person who is misusing it.

    i personally don't believe in a god who is omnipotent but i do believe
    in enlightened beings who are omniscient, i.e. know all past, present
    and future phenomena directly and simultaneously.

    i'm not quite sure what "the cobwebs or religion" is mean t to mean
    since religion is a personal experience and therefore not stuck in a
    particular time, but i'll say this: a mind contolled by anger than
    abides in a state of self-induced mental agony (i.e. peter west's)
    doesn't know the meaning of the word "free."

    On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:13:27 -0000, peter.west410
    wrote:
    > Its an illogical question.
    > There is only Humans and Animals on this planet,No-ones going to come
    > down,No-ones watching and judging us.We have all evolved from bacteria
from
    > millions of years ago.
    > All forms of religion and other ideologies are inplace to make the
    > general populace subservient. Religion enslaves the people.
    > Dust away the cobwebs of religion and free yourself.
    >
    > PW
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