[kj] Post Punk

Fri Mar 25 14:55:04 EST 2005

"It is better than the Dolls Red Patent Leather (3rd release)."

Pretty much *ANYTHING* is better than that album.

Alex in NYC

On Friday, March 25, 2005, at 02:32 PM, Christof hamille wrote:

> The first two New York Dolls is brilliant.  I like the Heartbreakers 
> but really it was just an attempt at cashing in on the moment.  It is 
> better than the Dolls Red Patent Leather (3rd release).  I would not 
> call New York Dolls punk.  Rock n roll through and through.  They were 
> definately instrumental in its rise (Just like the Stooges, the 
> Dictators, the MC5, Radio Birdman, etc.)
>
> And I think that these bands (in their prime) has stood up quite well
>
> Chris
>
>> From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>> Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>> <gathering at misera.net>
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>> <gathering at misera.net>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Post Punk
>> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:56:44 -0500
>>
>>
>> Where do we stand on the New York Dolls and Johnny Thunders? Well, 
>> many of them are dead these days, so it's easy to stand RIGHT ABOVE 
>> THEM.
>>
>> Wow, that was tasteless. I'll get my coat.
>>
>>
>> Alex in NYC....who liked the `Dolls, but was never that big a fan of 
>> the Heartbreakers (though Steve Jones cops to completely ripping off 
>> Thunders in THE FILTH & THE FURY). Blame Thunders for the heroin too.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, March 25, 2005, at 04:13 AM, vanessa luff wrote:
>>
>>> The thing is with the Ramones is that it never really mattered if 
>>> you didn't like one of the tracks because if you just waited 2 
>>> minutes another one would come racing along...WAN, CHEW, FREE FAWAH! 
>>>  It's Alive is probab;y one of the best 'live' albums ever wether 
>>> you like the band or not, it really captures what they were all 
>>> about.
>>>
>>> So where do we stand on New York Dolls and Johnny Thunders and the 
>>> Heartbreakers?
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter.west410" 
>>> <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com>
>>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 1:36 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Post Punk
>>>
>>>
>>>> "lead siner died of aids"      Freudian slip????????
>>>>
>>>> Alex: You re right,My knowledge of The Ramones is somewhat 
>>>> limited.I shall
>>>> give some of their songs a listen ,rather than judging them on 
>>>> preconceived
>>>> ,possibly misconstrued, unreliable, pre-judged
>>>> misconceptions..................
>>>>      Which song do you recommend, that I listen to first?
>>>>
>>>>    PW
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Brian" <wittz at starsandmoon.plus.com>
>>>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 1:00 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Post Punk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> >>Is Vic there
>>>>> Department S
>>>>> lead siner died of aids around 92
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com>
>>>>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 5:06 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Post Punk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > Im not sure the artists names .But the songs
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Is Vic there.?  &
>>>>> > Wheres Captain Kirk?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Should be included
>>>>> >
>>>>> >   PW
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Yes its so true
>>>>> > As we went warp factor two
>>>>> > I met all of the crew.........................
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > From: "Graeme Rowland" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
>>>>> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>>>> > <gathering at misera.net>
>>>>> > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 4:55 PM
>>>>> > Subject: [kj] Post Punk
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > So who should be on a post punk compilation?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > You need at least
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Wire
>>>>> > > The Fall
>>>>> > > KJ
>>>>> > > gang of 4
>>>>> > > PIL
>>>>> > > Pop Group
>>>>> > > Birthday Party
>>>>> > > Cabaret Voltaire
>>>>> > > Throbbing Gristle
>>>>> > > Swell Maps
>>>>> > > Slits
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > --- Djehuti111 <djehuti111 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> > > > > (Bloody cheek, they didn't even include a KJ
>>>>> > > > > track!)
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >  Or (this month's cover group) Joy Division or PiL
>>>>> > > > or
>>>>> > > > Gang of Four or The Birthday Party or about a dozen
>>>>> > > > or
>>>>> > > > more actual "post punk pioneers" that I can think
>>>>> > > > of.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >  Heh, I was a little brought down by the CD. ;)
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >  A L P
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > --- Phillipps Marc <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>
>>>>> > > > wrote:
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > > anyone seen this months Mojo?
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > > If I were Mr Coles I would be consulting my
>>>>> > > > lawyers
>>>>> > > > > . . .
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > 
>>>>> http://images.q4music.com/content/teaserimages/mojo/cover_big.jpg
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > > (Bloody cheek, they didn't even include a KJ
>>>>> > > > track!)
>>>>> > > > >
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