[kj] re: jihad/Beyrouth

[circuit bender]

The media can only define a culturally alien word, through the understanding of it's own cultures' language. So consequently, how the hell is a British or US mediagroup going to have a positive meaning for the word Jihad? Unless they wish to be seen as in support of an 'enemy', or seditious.
The public expects the 'bad arab' / 'brave GI' story, to identify, they wouldn't think the 'Iraq war' as justified otherwise.

"peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com> wrote:
"You may disagree with the widely used concensus that
chelsea bought the league, but by your own arguments you seem to
suggest that we should accept this as its now widely used!"

These are two completely different issues.One(Jihad) is dealing with what
a word means,its correct usage and how it is generally perceived .
And the other is dealing with Business/sporting issue(Did CFC buy the
PL.)
If you would like to make similarities with the football world then the
nearest comparisons I can think of is:
Should the MK Dons be known as Wimbledon or MK Dons?
(That is like the Jihad discussion)
and:Are Hamas a terror group or a Social group
(That could equate to did CFC buy the league)
PW

P.S Have you left for Geordieland yet,as I may be going as well.But I wont
find out until tomorrow

----- Original Message -----
From: "iPat" 

To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] re: jihad/Beyrouth


i accept that you shouldnt simply blame the media for everything,
however your referencing the term of Jihad comes from the media as i
doubt that any of you are accessing Islamic istes. I refer you to the
The The material in the 80's that was warning about the islamaphobia
seeds being sewn by Thatcher and the religious right.
Coming onto your point which simply mirrored my aknowledgement that
terms can change meaning and the gay term is an overused example. If
there is a general concensus that x is right it doesnt neceaaraily
mean that it is. You may disagree with the widely used concensus that
chelsea bought the league, but by your own arguments you seem to
suggest that we should accept this as its now widely used!
as to your final note, people can use whatever term they want if its
their artform. If you are so closed to this practice one wonders what
attracts you to this particular band but then again we sort of get the
gist of your purpose here.

over and out, off to newcastle





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