[kj] Pigface? ... and more futile attempts at defending the Damage Manual

[Ed Grapes]

Mind you, I liked the recent-ish Damage Manual album "Limited Edition" (although this title does invite gags to the effect that they wouldn't need to reel off too many copies, because who's going to buy it, eh?  EH ... ?  Go on, bring it on, you know you want to ...)  The double cd of remixes has some good moments on it too.  As for Pigface, it still strikes me that this eclectic lineup makes for a interesting prospect.  This is probably an odd attitude to take, but I like the element of chance about a gig, nice to be pleasantly surprised sometimes ... some gigs I've gone to that I've had misgivings about have been great.  And vice versa ... this "artistic collaborations with people in their prime" thing - obviously seeing people at the top of their game is fantastic, but your expectations can be higher, and often it can turn out to be a bit cosy - and sometimes because they're the men (or women) of the moment, complacency and arrogance kicks in, and they don't make the effort -  and
 as for "people needing work" - fuck yeah, we all do, I doubt many of the musicians discussed on this site are so well set that they just play for the hell of it, would say that's a bit misty eyed ...  

Christof hamille <wessidetempest at hotmail.com> wrote:1. I wouldn't go for this lineup. Some of the lineups in the past seem like 
true artistic collaborations with people in their prime. This lineup, like 
others, seems more like people needing work.
2. $15 is average compared to today's sad standards BUT usually the pigface 
lineup consisted of at least 10 people if not much more.
3. Martin Atkins is not the drummer he used to be. Stamina, age something. 
I saw him for the Damage Manual tour a few years back and he is just 
not...En Esch used to always be entertaining but I cannot speak of recently.

I would consider this more of a Pigfarce.

Chris

>From: gregslawson at aol.com
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>
>To: gathering at misera.net
>Subject: Re: [kj] Pigface?
>Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 08:31:19 -0400
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>The lineup includes Charles Levi & Curse Mackey from Thrill Kill Kult, En 
>Esch from KMFDM, and also Hanin Elias (Atari Teenage Riot), Krztoff (Bile), 
>and Lacey Conner (Nocturne).
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Phillipps Marc 
>To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' 
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>Sent: Wed, 18 May 2005 13:26:23 +0100
>Subject: RE: [kj] Pigface?
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>
>Depends on the lineup
>
> >From what I have heard they are rather hit & miss live
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gregslawson at aol.com [SMTP:gregslawson at aol.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 1:16 PM
> > To: gathering at misera.net
> > Subject: [kj] Pigface?
> >
> > Just saw in the paper, Pigface plays in Boston tonite. I know people 
>hate
> > Atkins for some reason, but musically are they worth paying $15 to see? 
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