[kj] Intoxication

Kevin Marion kevinmarion at yahoo.com
Wed Sep 28 22:44:36 EDT 2005 

Someone wrote: "Theres a growing army of teenagers
poisening themselves with binge drinking"

What type of intoxication/misuse is going on in the
rest of the world?  

Here in the US, "crystal meth" seems to be a problem. 
It could be made with store bought materials (like
cold medicine) from a pharmacy and other material from
a hardware/tool store.

Kev



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> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:18:19 +0100
> From: "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com>
> Subject: Re: [kj] 24 million people... 1 from those
> here!
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)"
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> Good speech Javi, but you misunderstood me.
>      I realise that alot of the plants come from the
> Amazon and were
> discovered by the locals who have used them for a
> long time.
>    You yourself said these medicines sometimes
> worked and sometimes did nt.
> I'm talking about the ability to take these plants
> and test them in
> laboratories and have the means to turn them into
> pills that WILL work .
>       To take plants and put them through rigorous
> tests to make sure that
> there are no side-effects , this process can take
> years. We have already
> seen what effects untested drugs can have on people
> (Thalidomide)
>      I'm talking about taking the raw plants a step
> further and turning them
> into a mass produced safe medicine. Growing the
> plants in controlled
> environments.
>       That's what I was talking about:medicines,
> rather than raw plants
>  So it is not a case of me being ignorant, it is a
> case of you not paying
> attention.
>     P.W.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Javier Garcia" <jagargal at lycos.com>
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)"
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> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 7:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] 24 million people... 1 from those
> here!
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com>
> 
> >      The Jungle dwellers may have a fresh water
> source but they certainly
> > haven't discovered any medicines, which are needed
> for survival.
> 
> You coulde be amazed Pete (or maybe not if you don't
> open your mind a little
> bit) if you only knew how many tribes make medicine
> with plants... you
> should know there are a lot of
> researchers taking examples of many healing plants
> to later make proffit
> with them via the big chemical-medicine companies...
> there are a very lot of
> them.
> Going further, in most Latinamerican countries
> there's a whole culture of
> healing with plants instead of going with a doctor.
> I'm not saying it's a
> better way to heal (sometimes it is though),
> but it works and works pretty fine. Here, in the
> heart of Mexico city we
> have 'The Sonora Market' which is a huge provider of
> plants and many other
> stuff, basically mystic/magical stuff. Some
> of it work, some don't (there are a lot of
> charlatans too), but still It is
> a living testimony that plants actually heal. Do you
> think the Lacandones
> (from the jungle in Chiapas, Mexico) actually go
> to the doctor??? most of them don't. Cases like this
> you can count
> thousands.
> 
> It's amazing how close minded you are Peter, and
> it's amazing how you can go
> from right to very wrong... and still speak as if
> you knew -and were right-
> about everything. I don't mean no
> offense, actually i enjoy quite often your
> discussions. This time not. Your
> disrespect to cultures you don't know it's just very
> disturbing to me.
> You must be aware that ignorant guys like you were
> the ones who came to this
> continent and destroyed many tribal symbols,
> edifications and even whole
> cultures to make this new world
> more 'civilizated' and modern... i guess they were
> the "intelligent ones".
> Those ancient cultures have a lot to teach us you
> arrogant man. There are
> still a ot of thing we don't know about them.
> 
> Javier
> mexico city
> 
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> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:21:19 +0100
> From: "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Rob/Kate Moss
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
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> "Perhaps there is a link here - I mean, she's always
>  showing her arse on the catwalk."
> 
>       Yes, but Kate Moss cant sing or play guitar
> can
> she....................come to think of it, has
> anyone ever seen Rob and
> Kate in the same photo?
> 
>  P.W.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)"
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