[kj] OT: MAKE IT STOP!

Wed Aug 9 10:04:59 EDT 2006

>loudest gig we have ever been to the other day

Motorhead at the old Marquee . . 

Although Damage Manual at Cambridge Junction seemed very loud, probably due
to the lack of bodies to absorb the sound . . 

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Brian Whitehead [SMTP:bawhitehead at gmail.com]
> Sent:	Wednesday, August 09, 2006 2:57 PM
> To:	Alex Smith; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject:	Re: [kj] OT: MAKE IT STOP!
> 
> That's strange, we were just discussing the loudest gig we have ever been
> to the other day and mine was the Buzzcocks at the Abart in Zurich about 4
> years ago. That was getting uncomfortable so i know what you mean.
>  
> Brian.
> 
>  
> On 09/08/06, Alex Smith < vassifer at earthlink.net
> <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>> wrote: 
> 
> 
> In terms of the noise cancelling `phones, I suppose they could help block
> exterior sounds (like traffic and subways and someone screaming at you to
> move out of the way before you're hit by the ten-tun truck rolling up
> behind you), but I don't think they're any safer for Tinnitus-prone ears. 
> 
> I do have a history of both sinus problems (partially due to a wonky,
> deviated septum) and inner ear trouble (lots of infections as a kid), so
> maybe it wasn't that Buzzcocks reunion show in `89 or that Guns'n'Roses
> show at the Ritz (when they filmed the vid for "You Could Be Mine"), but
> who knows? 
> 
> In any case, I'm still looking into accupuncture. At the very least, I'll
> satsify a long-standing curiosity about the practice, and I'm trying not
> to get my hopes up about any possible results.
> 
> In any case, stay tuned. 
> 
> Alex in NYC
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Christof hamille < wessidetempest at hotmail.com
> <mailto:wessidetempest at hotmail.com>>
> >Sent: Aug 9, 2006 8:25 AM
> >To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> >Subject: RE: [kj] OT: MAKE IT STOP!
> >
> >I have had problems with my ears even as a young child.   So naturally I
> went
> >towards many shows and being in a loud band for over a decade.   I
> remember a 
> >time onstage that my ear started to ring so bad that I was on my knees in
> >pain.   My right ear is significantly worse than my left.
> >
> >To answer your question part of it can be diet.   My ear problems are
> also 
> >related to my sinus problems.   So of course no dairy.   And of course
> >caffeine has its foot in almost all problems.   One way or another wear
> >earplugs at all shows.
> >I use headphones that lay on top of my ear as opposed to buds that go
> inside 
> >or the old style headphones that engulf the whole ear.   Yeah the sound
> isn't
> >as good but that is the payoff.   And I try to keep the volume at half or
> >lower.
> >I have only used accupuncture for allergies and it did work.
> Surprisingly 
> >
> >There are noise cancelling headphones from companies like Bose but I have
> >not heard good or bad either way.
> >
> >Good luck
> >
> >Chris
> >
> >>From: "death wish" < dwish2000 at hotmail.com
> <mailto:dwish2000 at hotmail.com>>
> >>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> >>band!)"< gathering at misera.net  <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
> >>To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> >>Subject: RE: [kj] OT: MAKE IT STOP!
> >>Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:24:11 +0000
> >>
> >>Hey Alex (and Stephane), sorry to hear of your ongoing woes - As I
> believe 
> >>I've mentioned here before, I've had tinnitus for 20 years and wouldn't
> >>wish it on anyone.
> >>
> >>I tried acupuncture about 10 years ago. I only went once, and there
> didn't
> >>seem to be any effect. I'm sure practitioners would say you've gotta go
> for 
> >>a half-year or something.... I've heard Ginko Bilboa can alleviate
> >>symptoms, but not for me. Those noise-cancelling devices sound
> interesting,
> >>but I think with tinnitis, it's very hard to pinpoint exactly what's
> going 
> >>on. A hundred people could have very different things going on with
> their
> >>hearing, and they could all have tinnitus.
> >>
> >>I had my hearing checked last year and was happy to learn that although 
> >>tinnitis is connected to hearing loss, it isn't necessarily an
> indicator.
> >>My hearing tested at the high-end of normal, which suits me fine, and
> makes
> >>me much less stressed about the ringing than I used to be. Diet and
> stress 
> >>are factors. Caffeine and aspirin are common complicators.
> >>
> >>I rarely go to live shows, and if I do, I've got earplugs in and I'm at
> the
> >>back of the venue. I just looked into getting "musicians earplugs" and
> in 
> >>Toronto you can get a custom-made pair for $190, which seems like a
> small
> >>price to pay.
> >>
> >>I got an mp3 player about a year and a half ago, and also noticed my
> >>ringing getting worse, so I've set strict rules on the volume I'll
> listen 
> >>to it at. My player displays a volume number, so it's easy to keep
> track.
> >>There are a lot of places I don't even bother using it, since the sound
> of
> >>the subway or street can be pretty loud to start with. 
> >>
> >>I found playing soft radio static would mask the particular sound I was
> >>hearing, and in the first few years, that really helped me sleep. I
> think
> >>the mind eventually adjusts so it's not as irritating as it is
> initially. 
> >>
> >>T.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: Alex Smith < vassifer at earthlink.net
> <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>>
> >>>Reply-To: Alex Smith < vassifer at earthlink.net
> <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>>,"A list about all things
> >>>Killing Joke (the band!)"< gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
> >>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
> >>>< gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>, "A list about
> all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> >>>< gathering at misera.net  <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
> >>>Subject: [kj] OT: MAKE IT STOP!
> >>>Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 11:16:12 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>Hey gang,....
> >>>
> >>>As many of you Gathering oldsters might remember from my whiney e-mails
> >>>back in the day, I developed Tinnitus in my right ear back in October
> of
> >>>1999. In the ensuing years, the persistent ringing more or less
> >>>levelled-off (this after a two-year moratorium on headphones). In the
> last
> >>>month, however, the ringing has inexplicably increased in volume and 
> >>>annoyance. I don't know if it's my diet or work-related stress or the
> time
> >>>of year or being irresponsile with my iPod (that's probably it right
> >>>there), but it's a bit worse than it has been. 
> >>>
> >>>I was wondering if anyone out there in Gatheringland similarly suffers
> >>>from Tinnitus and, if so, what are you doing about it? I'm seriously
> >>>looking into trying accupuncture. It has a somewhat dubious track
> record 
> >>>of success in Tinnitus treatment, but if sticking needles in my head
> has a
> >>>chance of liberating me from the demonic gremlin with an air-horn who
> >>>lives in my head, I'm all fucking for it. 
> >>>
> >>>Anyone?
> >>>
> >>>Alex in NYC
> >>
> >>
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