[kj] OT: MAKE IT STOP!

Wed Aug 9 21:35:04 EDT 2006

Loudest band always...Motörhead
One of the ludest shows...Skinny Puppy Too Dark Park tou

Chris

Stone Deaf in Detroit


>From: bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
><gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: MAKE IT STOP!
>Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:22:15 +1200
>
>i'm going to see the Buzzcocks in a few weeks, (first international
>band i will have seen for ages!),  i guess i should definately hunt
>down some good ear plugs then...
>
>
>
>On 8/10/06, Brian Whitehead <bawhitehead at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>That's strange, we were just discussing the loudest gig we have ever been 
>>to
>>the other day and mine was the Buzzcocks at the Abart in Zurich about 4
>>years ago. That was getting uncomfortable so i know what you mean.
>>
>>Brian.
>>
>>
>>On 09/08/06, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > In terms of the noise cancelling `phones, I suppose they could help 
>>block
>>exterior sounds (like traffic and subways and someone screaming at you to
>>move out of the way before you're hit by the ten-tun truck rolling up 
>>behind
>>you), but I don't think they're any safer for Tinnitus-prone ears.
>> >
>> > I do have a history of both sinus problems (partially due to a wonky,
>>deviated septum) and inner ear trouble (lots of infections as a kid), so
>>maybe it wasn't that Buzzcocks reunion show in `89 or that Guns'n'Roses 
>>show
>>at the Ritz (when they filmed the vid for "You Could Be Mine"), but who
>>knows?
>> >
>> > In any case, I'm still looking into accupuncture. At the very least, 
>>I'll
>>satsify a long-standing curiosity about the practice, and I'm trying not 
>>to
>>get my hopes up about any possible results.
>> >
>> > In any case, stay tuned.
>> >
>> > Alex in NYC
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > >From: Christof hamille <wessidetempest at hotmail.com>
>> > >Sent: Aug 9, 2006 8:25 AM
>> > >To: gathering at misera.net
>> > >Subject: RE: [kj] OT: MAKE IT STOP!
>> > >
>> > >I have had problems with my ears even as a young child.  So naturally 
>>I
>>went
>> > >towards many shows and being in a loud band for over a decade.  I
>>remember a
>> > >time onstage that my ear started to ring so bad that I was on my knees 
>>in
>> > >pain.  My right ear is significantly worse than my left.
>> > >
>> > >To answer your question part of it can be diet.  My ear problems are 
>>also
>> > >related to my sinus problems.  So of course no dairy.  And of course
>> > >caffeine has its foot in almost all problems.  One way or another wear
>> > >earplugs at all shows.
>> > >I use headphones that lay on top of my ear as opposed to buds that go
>>inside
>> > >or the old style headphones that engulf the whole ear.  Yeah the sound
>>isn't
>> > >as good but that is the payoff.  And I try to keep the volume at half 
>>or
>> > >lower.
>> > >I have only used accupuncture for allergies and it did work.
>>Surprisingly
>> > >
>> > >There are noise cancelling headphones from companies like Bose but I 
>>have
>> > >not heard good or bad either way.
>> > >
>> > >Good luck
>> > >
>> > >Chris
>> > >
>> > >>From: "death wish" < dwish2000 at hotmail.com>
>> > >>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
>> > >>band!)"<gathering at misera.net >
>> > >>To: gathering at misera.net
>> > >>Subject: RE: [kj] OT: MAKE IT STOP!
>> > >>Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:24:11 +0000
>> > >>
>> > >>Hey Alex (and Stephane), sorry to hear of your ongoing woes - As I
>>believe
>> > >>I've mentioned here before, I've had tinnitus for 20 years and 
>>wouldn't
>> > >>wish it on anyone.
>> > >>
>> > >>I tried acupuncture about 10 years ago. I only went once, and there
>>didn't
>> > >>seem to be any effect. I'm sure practitioners would say you've gotta 
>>go
>>for
>> > >>a half-year or something.... I've heard Ginko Bilboa can alleviate
>> > >>symptoms, but not for me. Those noise-cancelling devices sound
>>interesting,
>> > >>but I think with tinnitis, it's very hard to pinpoint exactly what's
>>going
>> > >>on. A hundred people could have very different things going on with
>>their
>> > >>hearing, and they could all have tinnitus.
>> > >>
>> > >>I had my hearing checked last year and was happy to learn that 
>>although
>> > >>tinnitis is connected to hearing loss, it isn't necessarily an
>>indicator.
>> > >>My hearing tested at the high-end of normal, which suits me fine, and
>>makes
>> > >>me much less stressed about the ringing than I used to be. Diet and
>>stress
>> > >>are factors. Caffeine and aspirin are common complicators.
>> > >>
>> > >>I rarely go to live shows, and if I do, I've got earplugs in and I'm 
>>at
>>the
>> > >>back of the venue. I just looked into getting "musicians earplugs" 
>>and
>>in
>> > >>Toronto you can get a custom-made pair for $190, which seems like a
>>small
>> > >>price to pay.
>> > >>
>> > >>I got an mp3 player about a year and a half ago, and also noticed my
>> > >>ringing getting worse, so I've set strict rules on the volume I'll
>>listen
>> > >>to it at. My player displays a volume number, so it's easy to keep
>>track.
>> > >>There are a lot of places I don't even bother using it, since the 
>>sound
>>of
>> > >>the subway or street can be pretty loud to start with.
>> > >>
>> > >>I found playing soft radio static would mask the particular sound I 
>>was
>> > >>hearing, and in the first few years, that really helped me sleep. I
>>think
>> > >>the mind eventually adjusts so it's not as irritating as it is
>>initially.
>> > >>
>> > >>T.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>>From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>> > >>>Reply-To: Alex Smith < vassifer at earthlink.net>,"A list about all 
>>things
>> > >>>Killing Joke (the band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>> > >>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>> > >>><gathering at misera.net>, "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
>>band!)"
>> > >>><gathering at misera.net >
>> > >>>Subject: [kj] OT: MAKE IT STOP!
>> > >>>Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 11:16:12 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Hey gang,....
>> > >>>
>> > >>>As many of you Gathering oldsters might remember from my whiney 
>>e-mails
>> > >>>back in the day, I developed Tinnitus in my right ear back in 
>>October
>>of
>> > >>>1999. In the ensuing years, the persistent ringing more or less
>> > >>>levelled-off (this after a two-year moratorium on headphones). In 
>>the
>>last
>> > >>>month, however, the ringing has inexplicably increased in volume and
>> > >>>annoyance. I don't know if it's my diet or work-related stress or 
>>the
>>time
>> > >>>of year or being irresponsile with my iPod (that's probably it right
>> > >>>there), but it's a bit worse than it has been.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>I was wondering if anyone out there in Gatheringland similarly 
>>suffers
>> > >>>from Tinnitus and, if so, what are you doing about it? I'm seriously
>> > >>>looking into trying accupuncture. It has a somewhat dubious track
>>record
>> > >>>of success in Tinnitus treatment, but if sticking needles in my head
>>has a
>> > >>>chance of liberating me from the demonic gremlin with an air-horn 
>>who
>> > >>>lives in my head, I'm all fucking for it.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Anyone?
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Alex in NYC
>> > >>
>> > >>
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