[kj] RE: Melotonin
P Bernardi
phantasmas at erols.com
Sun Aug 13 09:12:46 EDT 2006
Have u tried Courtald Talks? I pass out everytime!
GREG SLAWSON wrote:
> I've tried several different sleep meds over the years, including
> Melatonin, Ambien, and another I forgot the name of. None of them did
> anything to help my hyperactive, 140 lb. body fall asleep--in fact,
> they seemed to keep me more awake. The only drug that's done anything
> useful is Lunesta--it doesn't so much put me to sleep (nothing is
> capable of that, not even elephant tranquilizers), but it helps me
> stay asleep with a minimum of wake-ups during the night. If you wake
> up before 8 hours, you feel groggy, but that passes after the 8 hours.
> Now, excuse me while I stay up.
>
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> From: "shaun" <shaun23 at ukf.net>
> Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
> To: <gathering at misera.net>
> Subject: [kj] RE: Melotonin
> Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:16:26 +0100
> >Hi all
> >
> >Just like to add that I have used melatonin for about five years
> now, for
> >Insomnia.
> >I don't use it like everynight, just at the times I can't sleep.
> When I have
> >heavy bouts
> >off sleepless night I may take it twice a week, but these are
> rare now days
> >thanks to Melatonin.
> >
> >And now I maybe need them, 2-3 times a year. And have suffered
> non of the
> >side effects mentioned.
> >
> >In the past, I was put on all types of sleeping tabs by the Dr
> all had bad
> >side effect, but thats a different story.
> >
> >N'EWay, the one thing I like about melatonin is that you don't
> feel like
> >crap the next day, and I've never found them to make me drowsy
> >they just allow me to sleep as normal.
> >
> >Then at the end of the day, if you do anything to excess it's
> normal ends up
> >being bad for you.
> >
> >Shaun
> >
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> > 1. Re: Re: melatonin (Papa Lazarou)
> > 2. RE: Judas Nut (Jpwhkj at aol.com)
> > 3. Re: Judas Nut (NoGGer4228 at aol.com)
> > 4. RE: Welcome to the "Gathering" mailing list (Juliet Pleming)
> > 5. Re: RE: Welcome to the "Gathering" mailing list (Tim Bucknall)
> > 6. Re: RE: Welcome to the "Gathering" mailing list (woody2shooz)
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> >Message: 1
> >Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:08:08 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: Papa Lazarou <circuit_bender at yahoo.com>
> >Subject: Re: [kj] Re: melatonin
> >To: gathering at misera.net
> >Message-ID: <20060811230808.11657.qmail at web60819.mail.yahoo.com>
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> >
> >nope, not very empirical, but yes, if you want to look around.
> > just the same as screwing with serotonin, dopamine etc etc...
> >
> >jo <arcadia at arcadia.karoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >
> > It's used in the dog world too. To help with stress -
> particularly with
> >things like noise phobias - fireworks etc. Can't say that I've
> had any
> >success but I've only used it once and recommended it once but
> some people
> >swear by it. Personally by the time you work out the correct
> dosage you can
> >sort out the problem behaviourally.
> >
> > Gave it to my OH - didn't reduce his sex drive. I'll have to
> give him a
> >bit more next time;-)) Hardly empirical evidence though.
> >
> > jo
> >
> >
> >
> >Adverse reactions associated with melatonin include stomach
> discomfort,
> >morning grogginess, daytime "hangover," feeling of a "heavy head,"
> >depression, psychotic episodes (in combination with fluoxetine),
> headache,
> >lethargy, fragmented disorientation, amnesia, inhibition of
> fertility,
> >increased seizure activity, suppression of male sexual drive,
> hypothermia,
> >retinal damage, gynecomastia and low sperm count. Typically,
> these reports
> >are related to high doses. However, adverse effects have been
> reported and
> >can occur with low doses as well.
> >---------------------------------
> >
> >
> >---------------------------------
> >Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.
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> >Message: 2
> >Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 03:59:22 -0400
> >From: Jpwhkj at aol.com
> >Subject: RE: [kj] Judas Nut
> >To: gathering at misera.net
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> >I certainly didn't see this, nor hear about it in any of the gig
> reports or
> >set-lists.
> >
> >
> >Phillipps Marc <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk> writes:
> >
> > >I seem to remember Lightbringer getting played as well?
> >
> >
> >
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> >Message: 3
> >Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 07:55:31 EDT
> >From: NoGGer4228 at aol.com
> >Subject: Re: [kj] Judas Nut
> >To: gathering at misera.net
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> >
> >I got a set list from Nottingham, where Implosion is crossed
> out, so they
> >were gonna play it but dropped it for some reason
> >
> >In a message dated 12/08/2006 08:59:50 GMT Standard Time,
> Jpwhkj at aol.com
> >writes:
> >
> >I certainly didn't see this, nor hear about it in any of the gig
> reports or
> >set-lists.
> >
> >
> >Phillipps Marc <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk> writes:
> >
> > >I seem to remember Lightbringer getting played as well?
> >
> >
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> >Message: 4
> >Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 15:19:43 +0100
> >From: "Juliet Pleming" <price-pleming at tiscali.co.uk>
> >Subject: [kj] RE: Welcome to the "Gathering" mailing list
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> >Hi everyone, how are you all?
> >
> >It's me - Juliet - remember me?
> >
> >Is anyone going to the mal damage gig tonight?
> >
> >I am, and I just wondered if anyone else was.
> >
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> >Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 15:40:11 +0100
> >From: "Tim Bucknall" <tim.bucknall at btinternet.com>
> >Subject: Re: [kj] RE: Welcome to the "Gathering" mailing list
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> >hey Juliet, welcome back
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> > > Hi everyone, how are you all?
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> > > It's me - Juliet - remember me?
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> > > Is anyone going to the mal damage gig tonight?
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> > > I am, and I just wondered if anyone else was.
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> >Message: 6
> >Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 15:51:09 +0100
> >From: woody2shooz <woody2shooz at yahoo.co.uk>
> >Subject: Re: [kj] RE: Welcome to the "Gathering" mailing list
> >To: price-pleming at tiscali.co.uk, "A list about all things Killing
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> >welcome back Juliet
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> >see you there!
> >woody
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> >Juliet Pleming wrote:
> > > Hi everyone, how are you all?
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> > > It's me - Juliet - remember me?
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> > > Is anyone going to the mal damage gig tonight?
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> > > I am, and I just wondered if anyone else was.
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