[kj] R.I.P. James Brown - Is this allowed?

[Marcos Santiago]

yeh..and i got a fucking pain in the ass because here
in the second cuba this fucking communist chavez wont
the fucking elections again..someone in the list with
a gun to come here to kill this pìece of shit???

Maurice in the second cuba




--- Mike Cooper <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
escribió:


> Just come back from my Christmas break and found a

> big row brewing.  I was 

> wondering what people got for Christmas - is this

> allowed?  Good!  I got the 

> Crass book, the Ian Glasson book on anarcho punk

> bands and Banksy Walls and 

> Peace which are all brill.  Wot a scoop!  To top it

> all my brother got me 

> and my 6 year old son a ticket to see the mighty

> Swindon Town.  It was his 

> first ever game, my late father took me at six - it

> was a very emotional 

> experience for me, that I did actually nearly cry. 

> He loved it and we 

> fucking won as well - best present I have ever had

> EVER.  Needless to say 

> the bug is back and god bless Paul Sturrock and

> Christian (no shinpads) 

> Roberts!

> 

> My other brother got me the Katie Melua or something

> CD.  I ask you.  I have 

> been annoying him with punk rock etc since the late

> 70's and this was 

> clearly my punishment.  Anybody want a Kate thingy

> album before I stickon 

> ebay (ungrateful sod that I am).

> 

> There.  Wot did anyone else get?

> ----- Original Message ----- 

> From: "BS Crack" <BSCrack at UltimateEmail.com>

> To: <vassifer at earthlink.net>; <gathering at misera.net>

> Cc: <gathering at misera.net>

> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 5:48 PM

> Subject: Re: [kj] R.I.P. James Brown

> 

> 

> >

> > I personally dislike all the outlandish claims

> people make after someone 

> > died. Claims that bear no resemblance to reality,

> for example:

> > "but the man's influence extends far and wide

> beyond simply funk and hip 

> > hop (neither of which would've existed without his

> contributions)"

> > Alex: Do you really believe that had James Brown

> not entered the music 

> > business then funk and hip hop would never have

> been invented? James Brown 

> > had predecessors who influenced him , music is an

> evolving form and 

> > numerous people have contributed to musics

> evolution. To say that One man 

> > is solely responsible for not one, but two genres

> of music is a huge 

> > exaggeration.

> > If James Brown hadnt have been born, then music

> today would still be 

> > exactly the same as it is now.

> > He was just as famous for his dance steps than he

> was for the music he 

> > made. Can anyone sing ten James Brown

> songs?...........five?.........well 

> > apart from his two famous songs, can anyone sing

> or hum any of his other 

> > tunes? Because I certainly cant.

> >

> > "James Brown practically *INVENTED* stage

> presence"

> > So you are saying that before James Brown there

> was nt anybody who had any 

> > "stage presence"? I cant disagree because I dont

> know .

> >

> > "And judging James Brown via his cameos in "The

> Blues Brothers" or "Rocky 

> > IV" or whatever is like judging Killing Joke

> solely by OUTSIDE THE GATE."

> >

> > Well no. James Browns contribution to the Rocky

> film gave him his only UK 

> > Number 1.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- vassifer at earthlink.net wrote:

> >

> > From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

> band!)" 

> > <gathering at misera.net>, "'A list about all things

> Killing Joke (the 

> > band!)'" <gathering at misera.net>

> > Subject: Re: [kj] R.I.P. James Brown

> > Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 12:16:31 -0500 (EST)

> >

> >

> > "The only music he influenced was crap..."

> >

> > Sorry, Mik, but this is just a patently ridiculous

> statement. Again, I'm 

> > not saying you have to like James Brown, but the

> man's influence extends 

> > far and wide beyond simply funk and hip hop

> (neither of which would've 

> > existed without his contributions). James Brown

> practically *INVENTED* 

> > stage presence -- Iggy Pop, Robert Plant, Ian

> McCulloch, Jaz Coleman, Joe 

> > Stummer -- none of them can top, let alone touch

> what James Brown was. He 

> > was as crucial a performer/innovator/artist as

> anyone you can name.

> >

> > This just reminds me of the Beatles conversation

> we had a couple of weeks 

> > ago. I know it seems like a really, punky,

> iconoclastic thing to say that 

> > you don't like James Brown (who was inarguably

> "punker" than any band you 

> > can name -- listen to "Say It Loud, I"m Black &

> I"m Proud" and consider 

> > the context of the times), but to not recognize

> his influence and 

> > contribution just makes you seem a bit narrow,

> misinformed and, frankly, 

> > dim.

> >

> > And judging James Brown via his cameos in "The

> Blues Brothers" or "Rocky 

> > IV" or whatever is like judging Killing Joke

> solely by OUTSIDE THE GATE.

> >

> > Alex in NYC

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > and he was just a criminal who some people thought

> >>> could sing.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> >>From: Mik Raven <mik at corvids.eclipse.co.uk>

> >>Sent: Dec 26, 2006 11:55 AM

> >>To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the

> band!)'" 

> >><gathering at misera.net>

> >>Subject: Re: [kj] R.I.P. James Brown

> >>

> >>No I can't hear anything I like whatsoever in his

> music. Does that make me

> >>myopic? Guess I'll go find my reading glasses

> then! :-) Actually, never 

> >>been

> >>a big fan of change either. IMHO not one of the

> Joke's better ditties.

> >>

> >>Mik

> >>

> >>-----Original Message-----

> >>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] 

> >>On

> >>Behalf Of Stephen Robinson

> >>Sent: 26 December 2006 10:39

> >>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (t

> >>Subject: Re: [kj] R.I.P. James Brown

> >>

> >>You can't hear the power, excitment and simple

> funk power in his beats?

> >>

> >>If the only music he influenced was crap, do that

> mean you think Change 

> >>was

> >>crap?

> >>

> >>> James Brown was shit but the Blues Brothers was

> quite an entertaining

> >>> film. I will not shed a tear for James Brown but

> dread the endless

> >>> tributes that are bound to follow his death. The

> only music he

> >>> influenced was crap and he was just a criminal

> who some people thought

> >>> could sing.

> >>>

> >>> Mik

> >>-- 

> >>I wrote this on my Amiga One runing OS4, now with

> screen dragging

> >>http://os4.hyperion-entertainment.biz/

> >>

> >>

> >>_______________________________________________

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> 

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