[kj] The Fall vs Killing Joke

[Christof hamille]

Genisis P-Orridge had that same thought with Psychic TV back in the early 
90s.  Obviously he has abandoned that theory only by nature of being so 
protective of thee symbol and anything else PTV.

Whatever

exactly

Chris


>From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>,"A list about all things 
>Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
>To: fluwdot at earthlink.net,"A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
>band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] The Fall vs Killing Joke
>Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 12:29:13 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
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>I asked Big Paul about that very point when I chatted with him two summers 
>ago. Wonder what'll become of taht interview.
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>Anyway, they didn't mean "anonymity" in terms of hiding behind screens or 
>masks (ala the Residents and/or Kiss). They meant anonymity more along the 
>lines of the pseudonyms (Geordie, Jaz, etc.), to take the emphasis 
>(unsuccessfully, as it turns out) off the individuals involved (this 
>follows with Jaz's somewhat recent plans of having members pick up heir to 
>continue Killing Joke after the original members pass on).
>
>Whatever.
>
>Alex in NYC
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: fluw
>Sent: Jan 9, 2006 12:26 PM
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>Subject: Re: [kj] The Fall vs Killing Joke
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>true jamie, that slipped my mind. but how can one who performs on stage in 
>public be anonymous? cry sellout! haha whatever, the gathering has been 
>over this like a gazillion times.
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>Jpwhkj at aol.com wrote:
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>If that's reckoned on stating their ideals, then didn't it include "total 
>anonymity"?
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>It's interesting to note that (like KJ) the Fall also went through a 
>relatively soft phase in the late eighties - although that probably had 
>more to do with the creative input of Brix than any particular stab at 
>commercial success.
>
>Jamie
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>fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> writes:
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>the original ideal, as stated in the ad for a guitarist/bassist was, "total 
>exploitation".
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>they exploit each other, as well as outsiders, very well wouldn't you say? 
>so the answer is  ....*yes*
>however,* they seem to have no idea how to exploit the industry for their 
>own wealth* unless the monetary sob story every five years or so is a bilk 
>job
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>Jpwhkj at aol.com wrote:
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>The Fall have stayed true to their original ideals.*
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>Killing Joke haven't.
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>Discuss.
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>* Some UK radio DJ asked Jaz and Raven in '85 whether they'd stayed true to 
>their original ideals. The (abbreviated) answer was "Yes".  Shortly 
>afterwards the DJ was found bound, gagged, and slightly nauseous after a 
>lunch of raw meat and maggots.
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