[kj] Raven in demand ?

[Christof hamille]

Well...I guess.  Wax Trax would have existed in one capacity or another if 
Ministry/Al never came into the picture.  And I am saying that because they 
started before he was even a thought.  Technically Ministry never released 
anything on Wax Trax.  Yes all of the side projects were on there.
I guess I feel bad that Al does not have enough gumption to honor the two 
people that really helped his career by giving them proper credit

Chris


>From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>,"A list about all things 
>Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
><gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: RE: [kj] Raven in demand ?
>Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:25:34 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
>
>
>
>I'm projecting here, but maybe Al makes those assertions based on the 
>inarguable fact that Ministry were far and away the most successful of all 
>Wax Trax alumni. Doesn't make his statement any less bold, but there's a 
>degree of truth there.
>
>Alex in NYC
>
>-----Original Message-----
> >From: Christof hamille <wessidetempest at hotmail.com>
> >Sent: Jan 11, 2006 12:21 PM
> >To: gathering at misera.net
> >Subject: RE: [kj] Raven in demand ?
> >
> >uuuhhmmm....Al didn't start Wax Trax.  i don't even think he was a legal
> >owner in their later days.  Jim Nash and Dannie Flesher started it.  So 
>Al
> >is trying to rewrite history.  I know the guy is deluded and has done a 
>lot
> >of things with/through Wax Trax but that is pretty bold.  Green Day 
>aren't
> >claiming they started Lookout.  Or Nirvana with Sub Pop.
> >
> >uh yeah
> >
> >Chris
> >
> >>From: first fossil <firstfossil at yahoo.co.uk>
> >>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> >><gathering at misera.net>
> >>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> >><gathering at misera.net>
> >>Subject: RE: [kj] Raven in demand ?
> >>Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:49:57 +0100 (CET)
> >>
> >>   "Gooner"? On the subject of Ministry, Jourgensen mentions Killing 
>Joke's
> >>first as a current fave and Raven's on his new album. What are the 
>chances
> >>of the two bands touring together and feeding off each other?
> >>Realistically, who would be better for Killing Joke to ride on?
> >>
> >>   http://www.alternative-zine.com/interviews/en/64
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Antoni Adamiak <pssyche23 at hotmail.com> escribió:
> >>
> >>Despite the imminent new KJ album (and tour of some description) plus a
> >>tour
> >>in the pipeline with Ministry, rumours that our lifelong "gooner" loving
> >>Raven has joined Chelsea FC on loan, until the end of the current 
>season,
> >>refuse to go away :
> >>
> >>* http://home.clara.net/antoni/maniche7.jpg *
> >>
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