[kj] [OT] Lebanon news

[ade]

Dude, for all your criticism of Scarlet, you don't seem to be doing a good
job of making sense either. I doubt you've done anything to educate her, or
anyone else on this list, for that matter!

The Lebanese govt has no power over Hezbollah. Imagine Tony Blair begging
UK-based Islamists to tow the line - is it gonna work? Zionist
leadership/Israeli military slaughtered MANY Arabs when Israel was set up.
They swept through the streets in their US-supplied tanks, cutting the local
Arabs down with US-supplied weapons. Lots of 'displacement'. Lots of grudges
born.

The politics of this new wave of aggro are as complex as anything previous
to it. Hezbollah seem to be dragging Israel into a war & sadly Israel seems
extremely keen! The Israeli leadership/military have lost the plot (proper
angry) & Hezbollah are doing a damn good job of getting the world to see
that.

The only people that lose are the innocents/civilians.


ade (*YAWN* I await flames...)

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
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Sent: 21 July 2006 03:34
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Lebanon news


"Scarlet" babbled:


> Well let's see...
>
>   If the sole intention of Hezbollah's formation was to get the Israeli
>> troops out of Lebanon, you must ask why Hezbollah didnt disband when the
>> Isreali troops did eventually leave Lebanon a few years ago.
>
> Because although the Iseali's left, they sat on the boarders with hundreds
> of tanks. And constantly kidnapped people and held them as hostage in
> jails
> in Isreal. Not just men either. but women and children!

Do you have a link to such "kidnapping" of Lebanon women and especially
children?

As for those tanks sitting on the border, now why would a country how has
routinely had short range rockets fired almost daily across that border want
to protect and police that border?

(snip)

> Let's see, at the moment Isreal has killed over 300 "civilians" and
> Hezbollah has killed 25 people half of which are actual soldiers. Seems to
> me Isreal is punishing people not actually doing to well against the
> militia
> though, is it? Why did Palestinian Hamas kiddnap a solidier, maybe because
> Isreal closed a border for 6 months which meant the Palistineans couldn't
> get their crops to market. Isreal "kidnapped" a whole country. Imagine
> this.
> Tony Blair disagrees with the Spanish Priminister and rather than go
> through
> diplomacy, he sends in a crack troop of soldiers and shoots him, or better
> still bombs his house. cause Isreal has been doing that to Palistine and
> Lebenon for over 30 years!

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, None. It's like
listening to a McDonalds order taker talk about nuclear physics.

I'd suggest spending a couple hours reading up on the short term and long
term history of the region off a few unbiased sources, but you clearly have
your mind made up and are rooting for the "underdog" regardless of the
circumstances or underlying reasons for this current conflict.

Lemme give you one clue. Hezbollah and/or the Lebanon Parliament could end
this conflict at any time by doing the right thing and surrendering those
hostages and securing their own borders. That they continue *daily* to put
the entire country and population at risk because of *their own actions
which precipitated this attack* speaks volumes about who cares for their own
people.

T.B.


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