[kj] [OT] Lebanon news

Fri Jul 21 19:15:41 EDT 2006

He was still a member of Parliament...

and then we have Martin McGuinness, Gerry Adams.

And let's not forget the IRA's involvment with the Natzi's...or the fact
that Fianna Fail gave guns to the IRA in the late 60's.

The whole point is that even though the IRA policy was *"Ballot Box in one
hand and the Armalite in the other" *Britain didn't bomb the fuck out of
Ireland to get what it wanted. It used diplomacy, a word you obviously don't
understand.

Oh and heard today Israel refused to talk to the UN again. Seems they are
hell bent on using force.

B-Bye

Scarlet

On 7/21/06, STEVE DIY <stevediystreetsounds at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>   BULLSHIT
>
> Sands was already in prison when he was elected!!!!!
>   He was jailed in 1976 after being found guilty of terrorism charges and
> elected shortly before his death, whilst still in jail on hunger strike in
> 1981 .
>
> This is the reality: Face it.
>
>
>     "Shortly after the beginning of the strike, Frank Maguire, the Independent
> Republican<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Republican_%28Ireland%29>
> MP <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_of_Parliament> for Fermanagh &
> South Tyrone<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermanagh_%26_South_Tyrone_%28constituency%29>died of a heart attack suddenly and precipitated a
> by-election<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermanagh_%26_South_Tyrone_by-election%2C_1981_%28April%29>
> .
>
> The sudden vacancy in a seat with a small Roman Catholic majority was a
> valuable opportunity for Sands' supporters to unite the nationalist
> community behind their campaign. Pressure not to split the vote led other
> nationalist parties, notably the Social Democratic and Labour Party<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_and_Labour_Party>,
> to withdraw and Sands was nominated on an "Anti H-Block /Armagh<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armagh>Political Prisoner" ticket. After a highly polarised campaign, Sands
> narrowly won the seat on 9 April <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_9>
> 1981 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981>, with 30,492 votes to 29,046 for
> the Ulster Unionist Party<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Unionist_Party>candidate Harry
> West <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_West>, incidentally also becoming
> the youngest MP at the time<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_of_the_House>
> .
>
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----
> From: Scarlet <lucyfyre at gmail.com>
> To: STEVE DIY <stevediystreetsounds at yahoo.co.uk>; A list about all things
> Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Friday, 21 July, 2006 11:46:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Lebanon news
>
> LMFAO...
>
> You have obviously never heard of Bobby Sands MP... The Irish and British
> governments have both had terrorists in Parliament...
>
> (Oh BTW, you may also like to know there is a street in Tehran named after
> Bobby Sands, right alongside the British embassy :)
>
> You really are a funny old bugger. How you love to try to twist what other
> s have said :)
>
> B-Bye
>
> Scarlet
>
>
>
> On 7/21/06, STEVE DIY <stevediystreetsounds at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >   The Irish situation is completely different to the Middle Eastern one
> > . The Irish Government did NOT allow the IRA too set up camps along thre
> > English border in order to attack England with .
> >     The Irish Government did nt have ten IRA members as members of
> > Parliament do . Hezbollah has 10 members of Parliament in the Lebanese
> > Government.
> >    you cannot compare the Middle East situation with the Irish
> > situation, at all . They are completely different
> >
> >
> > Steve DIY
> >
> >
> >  ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Scarlet <lucyfyre at gmail.com >
> > To: TB <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>; A list about all things Killing Joke
> > (the band!) < gathering at misera.net>
> > Sent: Friday, 21 July, 2006 6:50:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Lebanon news
> >
> >  Dear T.B.
> >
> >
> > Look at it this way. Remember the IRA? Now what if Britain bombed Dublin
> > because of the IRA killing a British soldier, would that make sense to you,
> > because this is what Israel is doing!
> >
> > The Lebanese Parliament can not stop the war, they have no power to
> > fight Hezbollah because Israel has had an embargo on the Lebanese government
> > getting weapons. The Lebanese army has small arms at best. Plus a lot of the
> > Lebanese army are shiites too. SO Israel is asking for something that is
> > impossible. They want a civil war.
> >
> > Anyway..enough from me, you obviously are extremely well informed and
> > not a bit prejudiced.
> >
> > Will
> >  Love
> >   ALWays
> >
> > Scarlet
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > T.B's stupidity shown here!
> >
> > You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, None. It's like
> > listening to a McDonalds order taker talk about nuclear physics.
> >
> > I'd suggest spending a couple hours reading up on the short term and
> > long
> > term history of the region off a few unbiased sources, but you clearly
> > have
> > your mind made up and are rooting for the "underdog" regardless of the
> > circumstances or underlying reasons for this current conflict.
> >
> > Lemme give you one clue. Hezbollah and/or the Lebanon Parliament could
> > end
> > this conflict at any time by doing the right thing and surrendering
> > those
> > hostages and securing their own borders. That they continue *daily* to
> > put
> > the entire country and population at risk because of *their own actions
> > which precipitated this attack* speaks volumes about who cares for their
> > own
> > people.
> >
> > T.B.
> >
> >
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