[kj] Murder Damage - twatkins
Papa Lazarou
circuit_bender at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 14 15:42:35 EDT 2006
Yeah, but good artists rarely have good business sense.
first fossil <firstfossil at yahoo.co.uk> wrote: I don't like his protagonistic drum-biased mixing either, but at least he manages and controls his own business more than Jaz and Geordie do.
Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> escribió: Strikes me that Atkins sees himself more as auteur/orchestrator than simply drummer/participant. And being that it's HIS label, he just goes right ahead and fucks with stuff. I believe it was for this reason that Wobble disassociated himself from the Damage Manual. ]
Alex in NYC
-----Original Message-----
From: Papa Lazarou
Sent: Jun 14, 2006 1:40 PM
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: RE: [kj] Murder Damage - twatkins
Sorry, but Atkin's recording methods suck. He wouldn't know a dance rhythm if it kicked him in the nads. There are a million and one electronic musicians out there, with much 'lesser' equipment, who can make Atkin's production attempts sound almost novice.
Christof hamille <wessidetempest at hotmail.com> wrote:
Atkins typical process of recording (he has talked at length about this) is
to record everything. And then splice everything up and, essentially,
sample everything.
So the song will be played through normally and then Atkins will take the
one guitar riff from the verse and cut and paste.
Which can be pretty common in big studio recordings. But they are usually
done a little more....tactfully (not as obvious). Atkins like to take the
natural element out. And this way you have more of a dance/trance/whatever
pattern except it is with real guitars, drums, etc instead of everything
coming out of a sampler.
Hence why some songs sound processed or hollow and why some can drag on
tooooo long (how ong does that drumming outro need to be 2
minutes....uh..okay). And the person really has to know what they are doing
to make it sound natural. And have some high end gear and software.
Never mind his business matters or the way he minds his Ps and Qs
As far as Hosannas there are one of two things to improve the album 100%
1. Better production.mix
2. Length
It's a good album it just could be a LOT better with more time and effort
put into it
Chris
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