[kj] kj self parody ?

[jpwhkj at aol.com]

Actually, I think that the point of Bart's comment was to lampoon the 
simplistic view of history that labels wars "good" or "bad" - hence the 
inclusion of Star Wars.

Ditto Beavis's comment (or maybe it was Butthead) that he likes Rap 
videos 'cos they have lots of chicks getting naked.  Quite an accurate 
critique of rap videos, in fact.

Are you saying that cartoons *can't* be intelligent?  Have you read 
Maus and/or Persepolis?

Jamie



-----Original Message-----
From: FLIGHT BRINGER <flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:29:35 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] kj self parody ?

   "but remember kids, wars are bad, except for the War of 
Independence*, the Second World War, and Star Wars".

  From the American point of view this may be correct. But to the 
Vietnamese, Laotians and Cambodians the war against the Americans would 
not be classed as bad. The American Indians may not agree that the war 
of independence was a good thing. Also the above statement is a 
sweeping generalization which should stay where it belongs, in a 
cartoon. Are will really discussing the merits of cartoons and calling 
them intelligent? They may reflect American society, but they should nt 
be labeled intelligent. I see it as a continuation of the "dumbing 
down" of society. Has the cartoon programmes led to a vast amount of 
people who can only express themselves by saying *good*(awesome) or 
*bad* (sucks) with not many words in between?
  Have we got to a stage where a cartoon character is representative of 
American society?

 If you want to conquer the World, you must first conquer Hollywood

 >From: jpwhkj at aol.com
  >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
><gathering at misera.net>
 >To: gathering at misera.net
 >Subject: Re: [kj] kj self parody ?
 >Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 03:49:06 -0500
 >
  >Beavis and Butthead is one of the most intelligent programs to come 
out of >the US in years: cutting through all of the crap, whilst not 
taking itself >too seriously.
 >
  >I haven't seen so much of the Simpsons, but from what I've seen it's 
just >as spot on as B&B (possibly more so, as it covers wider topics). 
I >remember seeing an episode about bullying, which soon turned into a 
small >war, and ended with Bart saying (to camera) "but remember kids, 
wars are >bad, except for the War of Independence*, the Second World 
War, and Star >Wars".
 >
 >(* = the American Revolution)
 >
 >Classic...
 >
 >Jamie
 >
 >

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