[kj] (OT) ID cards/GM crops/Iraq

[god botherer]

Just to address one of many points you raise about my original message, 
tests have shown that GM crops are ten times more likely to cross-pollinate 
than normal crops. If you are an organic farmer working land adjacent to a 
GM farmer you might as well give up, because like it or not you'll 
eventually end up with GM crops; moreover GM crops with sterile seeds.

In fact you needn't be adjacent. The wind, bees, etc. will ensure that crops 
at a great distance will be affected.

Unfortunately weeds are also transmuted and become immune to normal 
pesticides. So, far from reducing the use of pesticides, GM crops 
dramatically increase the need for incredibly strong pesticides with all 
that this entails.

I wouldn't view things any differently in the absence of a KJ lyric sheet.

I'm not a seer or a prophet. It's not difficult to assess the possibilities 
if you are aware. I'm not saying all these things will come to pass. They 
won't if enough people are both aware and active.

Unfortunately, a great many people live in a Fool's Paradise. Nations and 
societies sleepwalk into disaster by small steps.

I didn't need to be a visionary to see what a foolish move the invasion of 
Iraq would be. I didn't need to be able to see into the future to recognise 
that many innocent children would die, that tensions within the country 
would be ratcheted up, that the country would become a magnet for all sorts 
of anti-Western factions, that Muslims worldwide would be made more 
sceptical, that this would only increase the threat of terrorism, that many 
fine young men in the British and American armies would die futile deaths, 
etc. etc.

Many things are entirely predictable.

Let's hope you're right though, and that the central authority will continue 
to be the elected government. Mmmmm.

gb





>From: "FLIGHT BRINGER" <flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk>
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
><gathering at misera.net>
>To: gathering at misera.net
>Subject: RE: [kj] (OT) ID cards/control
>Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:29:16 +0000
>
>>The situation we are moving towards is one where all possible data is held 
>>on each individual, including their political dissent, etc. In addition, 
>>samples of your DNA will be held by the central authority - just think of 
>>the possibilities there. Each individual's movements and location at any 
>>time will be able to be tracked.
>
>***********They can have all the data they want on me, I have nothing to 
>hide. I would be pleased if everybody in the UK had a DNA sample  stored in 
>a huge data bank, There will be no anonyminity for the murderers,  rapists 
>and bombers. *****************
>
>
>>Eventually the cards would be replaced by implants and who knows what the 
>>technological limitations of those could be?
>**********How do you know this. Have you been reading the lyric sheet 
>again? We shall deal with the implant issue  if and when it 
>arises.*************
>
>
>>The central authority will be multinational and composed of an elite who 
>>own the lion's share of the wealth.
>***********The central authority will continue to be the elected 
>government******
>
>
>
>>Any organised resistance to the status quo would be nigh-on impossible. 
>>Doubtless, opponents of the Nazis in their day would have been branded 
>>extremists.
>********Can you see into the future? You seem to be making predictions and 
>using these predictions as if they were actual facts********************
>
>
>>The basic right to save seeds to plant for the following year's crop will 
>>be taken away, since the GM crops, made with sterile seeds, will overwhelm 
>>the non GM crops. If people are unable or unwilling to pay the 
>>military/industrial/state rulers for new seeds, or are prohibited from 
>>doing so, the only option will be starvation.
>
>******GM crops will grow alongside normal crops. Governments have failed 
>miserably in trying to stop the growth of Heroin, Cocaine and Marihuana, 
>what makes you think that they will be able to stop people growing plants 
>that produce seed?************
>
>
>>When the whole system collapses, as even this one must eventually, death 
>>will already have been bred into organic life on earth. The future of the 
>>planet will look even less rosy.
>*******These cards will safe guard the future, these cards will stop the 
>system from collapsing . These cards will stop people whose goal it is to 
>make the system collapse****
>
>
>This is no longer a paranoid projection of a distant future, but a
>>simple conclusion concerning a development that is well under way before 
>>your very eyes.
>
>********They are just introducing I.D cards which many other countries have 
>.You are over reacting ******
>
>
>
>>Sun/Mail readers are 'educated' to lend their support with the 'if you've 
>>got nothing to hide you've got nothing to fear' argument, and the control 
>>of immigration and terrorism arguments.
>*********So how will it affect people who have nothing to hide and do not 
>want society bought down and replaced by an alien force? What about the 
>majority who are happy living in the status quo and who dont want change? 
>Why should they be concerned?*****
>
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