[kj] Taif No More

[jpwhkj at aol.com]

Chuckle.  Let's just go through this, shall we?

> Its the Leftie thought police encroaching on our freedoms yet again. 
The broadsheet press press are leftist and so are happy with it to go 
through

There is only one national broadsheet newspaper remaining - the 
Telegraph.  Not known for its left-wing views.  If you are referring to 
the Indie and the Guardian... yes, they are more or less left-wing / 
liberal, but they both oppose the introduction of ID cards.

> Lets not forget that the Nazis were socialists, UK's leftist 
Government is happy to wage war.

I think most people would doubt the current government's leftist 
credentials.  "Centrist" would be more accurate.

> The Leftist Labour government were the most popular in the UK, yet 
millions of Lefties were/are opposed to the toppling of evil 
Dictatorships.

I think what you'll find is that people were opposed to the war, rather 
than the demise of Saddam.

> Why would the Leftist community be against the toppling of Evil 
dictatorships, unless they were all closet Nazis?

See above.

> Just in case you did nt know, Nazi is short for National Socialist.

I did know.

> Look at "Red Kens" recent unsavory remarks about Jews .

What unsavoury remarks about Jews?  He made a very specific remark to 
one person (who happened to be a Jew), to the effect that using the 
excuse of "I'm only doing my job" is similar to the "I was only obeying 
orders" defence used by concentration camp guards.  The remark was 
particularly barbed because the journalist in question works for a 
newspaper group who were pro-Nazi before WWII.  Should he have 
refrained from using such a potentially hurtful comparison because the 
journalist was Jewish?  As you have said, Peter, you treat all people 
the same regardless of their colour etc - to do otherwise would be 
racist.

> The Left are the ones who pose a threat to our freedoms.

But not the right?  Are you hoping that the nice Mr Cameron will repeal 
any authoritarian laws brought in by Mr Blair?

> The Left are and always have been Nazis.

Well, I completely agree with you there.  For example, Karl Marx was a 
Nazi.  So was Keir Hardie (founder of the Labour Party).  What's that?  
They were both dead before Nazism was invented?  Oh.  Well... Tony 
Benn, he's *definitely* a Nazi.




-----Original Message-----
From: FLIGHT BRINGER <flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:42:26 +0100
Subject: Re: [kj] Taif No More

  "u guys should have a serious look at this and ask yourselves why
 it's getting so little media coverage."

  Its the Leftie thought police encroaching on our freedoms yet again. 
The broadsheet press press are leftist and so are happy with it to go 
through .
  Lets not forget that the Nazis were socialists, UK's leftist 
Government is happy to wage war. The Leftist Labour government were the 
most popular in the UK, yet millions of Lefties were/are opposed to the 
toppling of evil Dictatorships. Why would the Leftist community be 
against the toppling of Evil dictatorships, unless they were all closet 
Nazis? Just in case you did nt know, Nazi is short for National 
Socialist. Look at "Red Kens" recent unsavory remarks about Jews .
  The Left are the ones who pose a threat to our freedoms. The Left are 
and always have been Nazis.


 >From: "Robert Mallett" <Robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk>
  >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
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  >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
><gathering at misera.net>
 >Subject: Re: [kj] Taif No More
 >Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:02:52 +0100
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 >
  >u guys should have a serious look at this and ask yourselves why it's 
>getting so little media coverage.
 >
 >
 >bob
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