[kj] Few things here and there...

[mal spoor]

I started to get worried when I first heard Birds of a feather. It was a bit Kings of the wild frontier for me. I wont even discuss Me or you.
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  1. While I won't get into if BTATS blows away nighttime because I think it's all opinion. However, it was even stated by big paul that KJ did indeed chase the "big hit." Personally, I don't see that as shameful. We all have bills to pay and some want to be in it for the fame. I don't think that KJ has always chased the hit, but I think a couple of times they tried and failed and hopefully learned not to do it again. 

  And I don't think they have done it again since OTG. 

  2. Never heard any demos or original mixes so I really can't say. Would love to hear them though.

  3. I agree about birds of a feather, I love that song. Nice bouncy bass line, thumping drums, and Geordie riffing about. However, I don't think you can say that about "me or you." 

  From,
  Will
   
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  From: Luca Signorelli <lucasignorelli at alice.it>
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Sent: Fri, 12 May 2006 21:59:36 +0200
  Subject: [kj] Few things here and there...


  Hi guys, here's Luca from Italy. Not sure if it's the right thing to do, but still I've few thing to take off my chest about some of the discussions I've read recently on the list. 
   
  1) There was never, as in "never ever ever" such a thing as "deliberate commercial Killing Joke". Forget it - things in the band have never worked that way, and that's especially true for the period from, let's say, late '83 (when "Eighties" was released) to BTATS rehearsal sessions in 1986. I'm not saying that everything the band has written is a masterpiece (never particularly liked "Love Like Blood" myself) or that when they were filling 5000-seater they weren't happy. But that was not the priority, and has never been since. I want to mention this because the world is filled with successful bands/artists (and God knows how many I've met) who keep repeating that they're not in for the money - and 99.9% of them are in just exactly for that: there's no amount of compromise and ass kissing they wouldn't do to maintain a certain level of popularity. Killing Joke is one very, very rare exception: they have actually a sort of penchant for irritating/abusing people who could be helpful to their career, just because they wouldn't compromise their integrity. 
   
  2) As it was rehearsed before recording sessions, BTATS was the most fucking intensely gorgeous thing they had done since WTF, basically obliterating "Nightime" into oblivion - "Wintergardens", "Chessboard" and "Twilight of the Mortals" were things of absolute beauty (and still are in the final record, limp mix notwithstanding). What happened later wasn't exactly all their fault, and I really hope they will release the Chris Kimsey mix one of these days. 
   
  3) There's a lot of "fun" element in Killing Joke, even if it's rarely "good, ole, clean, wholesome fun", but more the wicked variety. And thus, songs like "Me or You" or "Birds of a Feather" are very much Killing Joke as the rest their catalogue, and must be related with accordingly. 
   
  Cheers everybody 
   
  Luca S. 
   
   
   
   
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