[kj] Recent KJ trivia (and Raven)

[Leigh Newton]

Raven's not promoting it, Al Jourgenson is. Raven's
just earning a well deserved meal ticket just about
the best and funnest way there is to do so.

Leigh


--- fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:

> ironic, all the positive 'inseparable music and
> politics' talk from 
> raven when but a few years ago he helped to intermit
> political 
> conversation on this forum.
>  
> yet now he is promoting this aspect of his new
> affiliation that is 
> railing against bush administration
> "lies,lies,lies":
> /when in 2001 - 2002/, raven was on this and joe's
> forum calling to 
> invade and "kill'em all" "sand nigger " remarks and
> lending aid for the 
> blurring of the lines between al queda and iraq with
> vehement support of 
> his forum buddy. all the while deriding and
> attempting to squelch people 
> who *challenged* arguments *for the war* -
> 
> / in 2001/ - 2002 - so many were blinded by their
> anger and fear of 
> recent terrorist events that the majority was
> effectively cowering at 
> the thought of questioning invasions and war against
> "sand niggers"
> 
> but now that the lies that were known then are
> accepted in the 
> mainstream and all the war mongers are shown to be
> what they are and the 
> majority is finally against the bush demagoguery
> machine and popstars 
> are feeling cocky...looky here, so does big bird.
> 
> what an attractive trait, constantly vacillating to
> the most fashionable 
> insurrection...it is only fitting that a personality
> like this breeds 
> animals for kill sport.
> what one is capable with innocent animals, so will
> be with humans.
> 
> *--------------------------------*
> nicholas fitzpatrick wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > HEADLINE: Ministry is still raging against the
> machine
> >
> >
> > Pearl Jam and Neil Young may have their recently
> released anti-war 
> > albums, but when it comes to pure vitriolic
> revolution songs, Al 
> > Jourgensen and his industrial thrash band Ministry
> rails against 
> > George W. Bush like no one else.
> >
> > Brimming with indignant rage, Ministry's new
> album, "Rio Grande 
> > Blood," recaptures the revolutionary spirit of the
> band's heyday (see 
> > 1992's "Psalm 69"). Through 10 blistering tracks,
> Jourgensen and his 
> > crew rant on topics ranging from corporate
> corruption ("Fear (Is Big 
> > Business)") to 9/11 ("Lies, Lies, Lies") to U.S.
> military policy 
> > ("Gangreen").
> >
> > Jourgensen takes shots at Dubya at every turn,
> asking a question on 
> > "Lies, Lies Lies": If the government truly has
> nothing to hide / Why 
> > are they afraid to answer a few questions?
> >
> > Jourgensen incorporates an all-star team of
> musicians on the album and 
> > the subsequent tour (stopping at the House of
> Blues downtown Sunday 
> > night), including drummer Joey Jordison
> (Slipknot), guitarist Mike 
> > Scaccia (Rigor Mortis), keyboardist John Bechdel
> (Fear Factory, Prong) 
> > guitarist Tommy Victor (Prong) and bassist Paul
> Raven (Killing Joke).
> >
> > "I think we represent the spirit of rebellion that
> has been very 
> > underground as far as music is concerned," said
> bassist Raven. "I 
> > can't tell you what all these industrial bands and
> people like Trent 
> > Reznor are doing. I got into music in 1977 in the
> time of punk rock. 
> > Music and politics has been inseparable."
> >
> > About the tour, Raven said: "We call it Ministry
> on steroids, because 
> > everyone says it's the best they've heard the
> band. We take our cues 
> > off of a lot of what the fans say. They get online
> after every show 
> > and dissect the show. We look at that in the
> morning and take it in."
> >
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