[kj] Recent KJ trivia (and Raven)

[Leigh Newton]

I'd be content as fuck if that's all my "job"
entailed. 

Leigh
 

--- fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:

> no leigh, he is promoting it, by being in the band,
> participating in 
> interviews, and lending support of the direction in
> those interviews.
> 
> if he had any legitimacy he would stand by the
> things he said in 2001 - 
> 2002 and be in toby keith's band earning his meal
> ticket but alas, raven 
> is a whore, a rebel for any cause. as long as the
> bass playing is mind 
> numbingly simple and he gets to pretend to be a rock
> n roll warrior, he 
> is content.
> 
> Leigh Newton wrote:
> > Raven's not promoting it, Al Jourgenson is.
> Raven's
> > just earning a well deserved meal ticket just
> about
> > the best and funnest way there is to do so.
> >
> > Leigh
> >
> >
> > --- fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> ironic, all the positive 'inseparable music and
> >> politics' talk from 
> >> raven when but a few years ago he helped to
> intermit
> >> political 
> >> conversation on this forum.
> >>  
> >> yet now he is promoting this aspect of his new
> >> affiliation that is 
> >> railing against bush administration
> >> "lies,lies,lies":
> >> /when in 2001 - 2002/, raven was on this and
> joe's
> >> forum calling to 
> >> invade and "kill'em all" "sand nigger " remarks
> and
> >> lending aid for the 
> >> blurring of the lines between al queda and iraq
> with
> >> vehement support of 
> >> his forum buddy. all the while deriding and
> >> attempting to squelch people 
> >> who *challenged* arguments *for the war* -
> >>
> >> / in 2001/ - 2002 - so many were blinded by their
> >> anger and fear of 
> >> recent terrorist events that the majority was
> >> effectively cowering at 
> >> the thought of questioning invasions and war
> against
> >> "sand niggers"
> >>
> >> but now that the lies that were known then are
> >> accepted in the 
> >> mainstream and all the war mongers are shown to
> be
> >> what they are and the 
> >> majority is finally against the bush demagoguery
> >> machine and popstars 
> >> are feeling cocky...looky here, so does big bird.
> >>
> >> what an attractive trait, constantly vacillating
> to
> >> the most fashionable 
> >> insurrection...it is only fitting that a
> personality
> >> like this breeds 
> >> animals for kill sport.
> >> what one is capable with innocent animals, so
> will
> >> be with humans.
> >>
> >> *--------------------------------*
> >> nicholas fitzpatrick wrote:
> >>     
> >>>
> >>> HEADLINE: Ministry is still raging against the
> >>>       
> >> machine
> >>     
> >>> Pearl Jam and Neil Young may have their recently
> >>>       
> >> released anti-war 
> >>     
> >>> albums, but when it comes to pure vitriolic
> >>>       
> >> revolution songs, Al 
> >>     
> >>> Jourgensen and his industrial thrash band
> Ministry
> >>>       
> >> rails against 
> >>     
> >>> George W. Bush like no one else.
> >>>
> >>> Brimming with indignant rage, Ministry's new
> >>>       
> >> album, "Rio Grande 
> >>     
> >>> Blood," recaptures the revolutionary spirit of
> the
> >>>       
> >> band's heyday (see 
> >>     
> >>> 1992's "Psalm 69"). Through 10 blistering
> tracks,
> >>>       
> >> Jourgensen and his 
> >>     
> >>> crew rant on topics ranging from corporate
> >>>       
> >> corruption ("Fear (Is Big 
> >>     
> >>> Business)") to 9/11 ("Lies, Lies, Lies") to U.S.
> >>>       
> >> military policy 
> >>     
> >>> ("Gangreen").
> >>>
> >>> Jourgensen takes shots at Dubya at every turn,
> >>>       
> >> asking a question on 
> >>     
> >>> "Lies, Lies Lies": If the government truly has
> >>>       
> >> nothing to hide / Why 
> >>     
> >>> are they afraid to answer a few questions?
> >>>
> >>> Jourgensen incorporates an all-star team of
> >>>       
> >> musicians on the album and 
> >>     
> >>> the subsequent tour (stopping at the House of
> >>>       
> >> Blues downtown Sunday 
> >>     
> >>> night), including drummer Joey Jordison
> >>>       
> >> (Slipknot), guitarist Mike 
> >>     
> >>> Scaccia (Rigor Mortis), keyboardist John Bechdel
> >>>       
> >> (Fear Factory, Prong) 
> >>     
> >>> guitarist Tommy Victor (Prong) and bassist Paul
> >>>       
> >> Raven (Killing Joke).
> >>     
> >>> "I think we represent the spirit of rebellion
> that
> >>>       
> >> has been very 
> >>     
> >>> underground as far as music is concerned," said
> >>>       
> >> bassist Raven. "I 
> >>     
> >>> can't tell you what all these industrial bands
> and
> >>>       
> >> people like Trent 
> >>     
> >>> Reznor are doing. I got into music in 1977 in
> the
> >>>       
> >> time of punk rock. 
> >>     
> >>> Music and politics has been inseparable."
> >>>
> >>> About the tour, Raven said: "We call it Ministry
> >>>       
> >> on steroids, because 
> >>     
> >>> everyone says it's the best they've heard the
> >>>       
> >> band. We take our cues 
> >>     
> >>> off of a lot of what the fans say. They get
> online
> >>>       
> >> after every show 
> >>     
> >>> and dissect the show. We look at that in the
> >>>       
> >> morning and take it in."
> >>     
> >
> >   
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