[kj] Jaz Straw

[Scarlet]

OMG Bob - I want your babies, now!

That was an awesome digest of current political and religous polemics ;)

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Scarlet


On 10/10/06, Robert Mallett <robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> OK, where to begin?
>
> 'Enough of that posturing and biggin up yourself '
>
> You plainly have no understanding of how intellectual life functions. I am
> an acknowledged world expert, and merely pointed out that fact to you
> because, to be blunt, you're not. I'm not 'biggin up myself' as you
> eloquently put it; I come from a council slum and let my peers enlarge my
> profile for me. It's called modesty.
>
> 'I would respect you a lot more if you came
> > back with an intelligent reply, rather than just telling me that you
> > *Could* come back with an intelligent reply.'
>
>
> I can give you an intelligent reply and am about to do so. Your bill for
> my
> fee is in the post (Joke!).
>
>
> 'Jaz doesn't want Muslims
> > to wear Western clothes and Jack doesn't want Western women to wear
> > Eastern clothes.'
>
> Do you really think that Jaz Coleman is an arbiter of sensible thought out
> opinons? When has he ever been this, and especially of late. He's a
> musician: that's it.  The fact is that Islam is a massively diverse
> ethno/political/religious ideology where one group may well be secularised
> and wear modern clothes, while another dresses in 'traditional' garb, and
> with all the accompanying mindsets. Between these two extremes lie so many
> layers, strata and sub strata of Islamism that to say all should dress the
> same is stupid. So, when did Coleman say it, under what circumstances (was
> he pissed, stoned, coked or all three?) and why? For effect? When he 'came
> close to converting? For fuck's sake!
>
> Jack Straw is a cunt.
>
> Apart from that, he in actual fact objected to Muslim female's wearing of
> the veil in certain circumstances (eg 1 2 1 meetings) and not to 'Eastern
> clothes', whatver the fuck you mean by that. Does this include the Fez and
> the Kaftan?
>
>
> 'The hypocrisy of the Muslims is astounding '
>
> The hypocrisy of the human species is astounding, period. Not all Muslims
> behave in the way you ascribe to them, and in my view you're are trying to
> be your usual 'funny clever self', but are veering perilously close to
> racism or at least discrmination.
>
>
> ' The Pope says that
> > Islam was a violent religion '
>
> The Pope is a cunt.
>
> Have you ever heard of the Crusades, The Conquistadores, the Inquisition,
> the Ustasa and so on ad nauseam?
>
>
> You want more Peter? Come and get it it
>
> bob
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "flight Bringer" <flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk>
> To: <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 6:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>
>
> > . I made a statement  and if you wish to reply, then reply . I would
> > respect you a lot more if you came back with an intelligent reply,
> rather
> > than just telling me that you *Could* come back with an intelligent
> reply.
> >  Heres my statement again. Give it your best shot. The whole of the
> > Gatherings watching and waiting in anticipation for a Teacher at an
> > University with a PHD in Political extremism to speak.
> >
> >
> > "You may label it as simple, but its too complex for you to give a
> > reasonable , intelligent well thought out reply to.
> >  It is quite a simple situation thought. >  Jaz is therefore against
> > integration and Jack is against the
> > rudeness of the wearing of the Hijab . Have you ever spoke to
> > someone wearing one ? It is uncomfortable . Would a Western women
> > get away with wearing a Bikini on a beach in Saudi and cite that
> > its part of her culture ?
> >  ., so in protest and disagreement
> > Muslims hijack a plane and murder a Nun . A muslim Policeman asks not to
> > guard the Israeli embassy because its against his principles
> > and yet Muslims expect Police to protect them when they march in
> > London calling for British soldiers to be killed.   Astounding!!!"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: "Robert Mallett" <robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk>
> >>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> >>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
> >>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> >><gathering at misera.net>
> >>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
> >>Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:01:56 +0100
> >>
> >>You may label it as simple, but its too complex for you to give a
> >>reasonable
> >>, intelligent well thought out reply to.
> >>
> >>
> >>Peter I have a PhD and teach political extremism at University. Without
> >>wishing to be patronising do you really want to take me on?
> >>
> >>bob
> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "flight Bringer"
> >><flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk>
> >>To: <gathering at misera.net>
> >>Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:40 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
> >>
> >>
> >
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