[kj] Jaz Straw

[flight Bringer]

Oh Shut up.

>From: Scarlet <lucyfyre at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
><gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 10:41:54 -0700
>
>Actually Judaism is a religion, not Jew. And Jew can be both someone whose
>religion is Judaism and someone whose decent is from the tribe of Judah - 
>so
>technically Jew can be a race, too. i.e. someone whose from the tribe of
>Judah, but not practicing Judaism is still a Jew.
>
>
>Will
>Love
>  ALWays
>
>Scarlet
>
>On 10/12/06, flight Bringer <flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>"The fact that he's Jewish means I find it very suspicious that
>>Straw of all people should raise a storm as controversial as this.No
>>Peter, I'm not remotely rascist"
>>
>>No ones accusing you of being a racist . Jew is a Religion (just like
>>Islam) and not a race of people, so its impossible to be a racist for
>>being
>>derogatory towards Jews.
>>So why do you feel the need to mention that he is Jewish?
>>Dont worry , its not a witch hunt . I just wondered why you feel that him
>>being Jewish means that you find it suspicious . Should nt people be
>>judged
>>on what they do or say rather than where they pray ?
>>   Is your last paragraph connected ?
>>
>>   "I just know what people from that strata of
>>society are like. Largely, they don't give a flying shit about you,
>>me or anyone else. Don't say I didn't warn you."
>>
>>
>> >From: "Robert Mallett" <robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk>
>> >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
>> >band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>> ><gathering at misera.net>
>> >Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>> >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:34:59 +0100
>> >
>> >1)  The fact that he's Jewish means I find it very suspicious that Straw
>>of
>> >all people should raise a storm as controversial as this.No Peter, I'm
>>not
>> >remotely rascist;
>> >
>> >2) If he feels uncomfortable about women wearing hijabs then why
>>publicise
>> >it? Surely his staff in Blackburn could simply invite Muslim women to
>> >remove the veil for reasons of etiquette? Of course he's promoting
>>himself!
>> >Don't be so fucking naive.
>> >
>> >3) No. The implication is that, yes he feels uncomfortable, but that he
>> >thinks Muslim women in general are isolating themselves by wearing it.
>>So,
>> >he's trying to liberate them from this monstrous tyranny. Right on Jack!
>> >
>> >4) I'm not pessimistic I just know what people from that strata of
>>society
>> >are like. Largely, they don't give a flying shit about you, me or anyone
>> >else. Don't say I didn't warn you.
>> >
>> >
>>
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