[kj] Jaz Straw

[Daniel Corvo]

These are sects, can't see the relation.


>From: "flight Bringer" <flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk>
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>To: gathering at misera.net
>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 21:20:50 +0100
>
>I think  that you misunderstood me Jim .
>Maybe my explanation was nt comprehensive enough , so I shall give you a 
>more detailed one:
>
>
>"Jewish Christians" today are persons who are ethnically Jewish but who 
>have become part of a "mainstream" Christian group which is not 
>predominantly based on an appeal to Jewish ethnicity or the Law of Moses. 
>This term is used as a contrast to Messianic Jews, a majority of whom are 
>ethnic Jews who have converted to a religion in which Christian belief 
>(often of a very evangelical nature) is generally engrafted onto Jewish 
>ritual which would, to outsiders at least, typically resemble Judaism more 
>than Christianity.
>
>A well known Hebrew Christian is the theologian Arnold Fruchtenbaum, the 
>founder of Ariel Ministries. He is not generally known as a Messianic Jew 
>but is not unhappy about being labelled as one either.
>
>Many Jewish leaders regard this movement, represented if not typified by 
>groups such as "Jews for Jesus", as more of a threat to Judaism than the 
>one posed by efforts to convert Jews to a more mainstream Christianity, 
>which have been ongoing for centuries; "Messianic Judaism" is largely a 
>phenomenon of the latter part of the 20th century. Others disagree and feel 
>that cultural assimilation rather than any form of conversion is the 
>greatest enemy now facing Judaism.There are important similarities and 
>differences between "Jewish Christians" (or "Hebrew Christians") and 
>"Messianic Jews". Jewish Christians identify themselves primarily as 
>Christians. They are (mostly) members of Protestant and Catholic 
>congregations, (usually) are not so strict about observing Kashrut (Jewish 
>dietary laws) or the Sabbath, and are (generally) assimilated culturally 
>into the Christian mainstream .
>
>
>
>
>>From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>><gathering at misera.net>
>>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>>Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 21:08:38 +0100 (BST)
>>
>>So it's possible to follow two fundamentally different religions?
>>
>>   You're such a twat. This whole monumental stupidity act is indeed 
>>primarily an act, but what kind of idiot do you have to be to think that 
>>permanently portraying yourself as mentally sub-normal is funny? Amazing.
>>
>>flight Bringer <flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>   ******Christian Jews are a small sect of who consider themselves to be
>>Christians . They are mainly Jews who have converted to Christianity and
>>they are seen as a threat to the Jewish Religion .
>>
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