[kj] OT: Few "Industrial" questions

[Blazingstar418]

Good Morning, 

 I'm just being a smartarse Alex. ;)

--- Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote: 
> Can't say I remember that, 

 It's in unison with the snare hits where they get all
"dubby" with reverb in the beginning.

 Dun dun dun-dun-dun-dun "Clang"! ;)

> but the Red Hot Chili
> Peppers banged on  
> metal during the middle-eight of "Breaking the Girl"
> and they're not  
> "industrial" either.

 I agree with you completely on this btw.

 While the term "Industrial" may have been coined by
Monte Cazazza, "Industrial Rock" was just another
catchphrase created by journalists to describe
something that'd never been heard before and which
applies to absolutely everybody now from Depeche Mode
to Radiohead.

 I have to say that there *is* something about the
"atmospheres" that they're able to create on the first
album ($,0,36 and Tomorrows World for example) where
(to me at least) they capture the sonic equivalent of
a desolate landscape.

 But, I tend to think of it more as "post apocolyptic"
than "industrial".

> 
> Alex in NYC
> 
> 
> On Sep 7, 2006, at 12:37 AM, Blazingstar418 wrote:
> 
> >  Good evening All,
> >
> >> No one bangs on metal.
> >
> >  *ahem*
> >  Except on "Change". ;)
> >
> >  A L P
> >
> > --- Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> 1. I've never understood why people call Killing
> >> Joke industrial. Honestly. They play drums,
> guitars,
> >> bass and keyboards.
> >> Comparatively conventional instrumentation is the
> >> order of the day. They may share a bleak,
> >> apocalyptic world view with some of the
> "industrial"
> >> acts, but I don't see any connection beyond that.
> >>
> >> 2. KJ with a woman drummer or bass player? Sure,
> >> although I'm not sure it would necessarily fit.
> For
> >> better or worse, I think there's always been a
> >> prominently testosterone-centric vibe to the
> `Joke
> >> (who knows? Maybe that's been their undoing!)
> Much
> >> like, say, the early Stranglers, Killing Joke
> carry
> >> themselves like a gang of thugs. That's how they
> >> potray themselves and, presumably, how they live.
> >> That atmosphere of menace and the veiled threats
> of
> >> violence -- however ultimately childish and
> >> impractical -- seem like thoroughly male traits.
> I
> >> think a female in the ranks would greatly change
> the
> >> dynamic. I'd be curious to see/hear it, but I
> >> wouldn't hold my breath.
> >>
> >> Would you settle for Raven in a dress?
> >>
> >> Alex in NYC
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Lennonka <svoje.ja at centrum.cz>
> >>> Sent: Sep 5, 2006 11:47 AM
> >>> To: gathering at misera.net
> >>> Subject: [kj] OT: Few lunatic questions
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Please try to think about it first before you
> >> reprobate me : )))
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 1. Tried someone to listen to KJ music after
> >> smoking a joint? It seemed to me more like
> "techno"
> >> than "rock". Is it because that they're so
> >> industrial or I smoked too much? : ))
> >>>
> >>> 2. Are they an interlink between rock music and
> >> electronical music?
> >>>
> >>> 3. How would you like if a woman was in a role
> of
> >> the KJ instrumentalist?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Lennonka, currently in Netherlands (that is
> >> explaining all, I think : )))
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