[kj] OT: Few lunatic questions

[Rob's Arse]

Funny that, I have never been able to see much in Ministry. I really dislike that guitar sound they use and that is miles away from our Geordie. Certain tracks are OK but I don't buy into it wholesale.

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--- ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk wrote:

From: "ade" <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
To: "'Alex Smith'" <vassifer at earthlink.net>,	"'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"	<gathering at misera.net>
Cc:
Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Few lunatic questions
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 23:45:59 +0100

To choose a more obvious example, I think KJ's influence on Ministry is
immense & they're considered to be somewhat industrial. I'm erring on the
side of KJ's influence on the rock/tribal/dischord end of industrial.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of Alex Smith
  Sent: 07 September 2006 18:23
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); gathering at misera.net
  Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Few lunatic questions


  A label is a label is a label. I'm not condemning them or praising them,
just pointing out that in the case of Killing Joke, the label "industrial"
doesn't seem to fit.

  Alex in NYC



    -----Original Message-----
    From: Papa Lazarou
    Sent: Sep 7, 2006 11:52 AM
    To: gathering at misera.net
    Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Few lunatic questions


    Why does it have to 'be' something?
    For branding? :/

    Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

      I think all our respective definitions of "industrial" are
conflicting.

      Alex in NYC



      -----Original Message-----
      >From: Rob Horan
      >Sent: Sep 7, 2006 8:18 AM
      >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
      >Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Few lunatic questions
      >
      >The keyboards, particularly on KJ and EDVRE, provide irrefutable
proof
      >of 'industrial' influence, no?
      >
      >horbag
      >
      >-----Original Message-----
      >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
      >On Behalf Of Alexander Smith
      >Sent: 07 September 2006 12:39
      >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
      >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Few lunatic questions
      >
      >
      >Can't say I remember that, but the Red Hot Chili Peppers banged on
      >metal during the middle-eight of "Breaking the Girl" and they're not
      >"industrial" either.
      >
      >Alex in NYC
      >
      >
      >On Sep 7, 2006, at 12:37 AM, Blazingstar418 wrote:
      >
      >> Good evening All,
      >>
      >>> No one bangs on metal.
      >>
      >> *ahem*
      >> Except on "Change". ;)
      >>
      >> A L P
      >>
      >> --- Alex Smith wrote:
      >>
      >>>
      >>> 1. I've never understood why people call Killing
      >>> Joke industrial. Honestly. They play drums, guitars,
      >>> bass and keyboards.
      >>> Comparatively conventional instrumentation is the
      >>> order of the day. They may share a bleak,
      >>> apocalyptic world view with some of the "industrial"
      >>> acts, but I don't see any connection beyond that.
      >>>
      >>> 2. KJ with a woman drummer or bass player? Sure,
      >>> although I'm not sure it would necessarily fit. For
      >>> better or worse, I think there's always been a
      >>> prominently testosterone-centric vibe to the `Joke
      >>> (who knows? Maybe that's been their undoing!) Much
      >>> like, say, the early Stranglers, Killing Joke carry
      >>> themselves like a gang of thugs. That's how they
      >>> potray themselves and, presumably, how they live.
      >>> That atmosphere of menace and the veiled threats of
      >>> violence -- however ultimately childish and
      >>> impractical -- seem like thoroughly male traits. I
      >>> think a female in the ranks would greatly change the
      >>> dynamic. I'd be curious to see/hear it, but I
      >>> wouldn't hold my breath.
      >>>
      >>> Would you settle for Raven in a dress?
      >>>
      >>> Alex in NYC
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> -----Original Message-----
      >>>> From: Lennonka
      >>>> Sent: Sep 5, 2006 11:47 AM
      >>>> To: gathering at misera.net
      >>>> Subject: [kj] OT: Few lunatic questions
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>> Please try to think about it first before you
      >>> reprobate me : )))
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>> 1. Tried someone to listen to KJ music after
      >>> smoking a joint? It seemed to me more like "techno"
      >>> than "rock". Is it because that they're so
      >>> industrial or I smoked too much? : ))
      >>>>
      >>>> 2. Are they an interlink between rock music and
      >>> electronical music?
      >>>>
      >>>> 3. How would you like if a woman was in a role of
      >>> the KJ instrumentalist?
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>> Lennonka, currently in Netherlands (that is
      >>> explaining all, I think : )))
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