[kj] RE: CULT

[Alexander Smith]

"Isn't that why we are here, why we obsess with this band?   Isn't  
that why there is a Gathering?  Killing Joke shouldn't be compared to  
The Cult. "


Yes -- GOD FORBID any of us DARE think for ourselves or have an  
opinion that strays from the party line.

Just because I think HOSANNAS is an *UNDERCOOKED* album (and it is)  
and because I like ELECTRIC by the Cult (whom the `Joke are peers of  
-- like it or not) does not mean my faith in the `Joke is swayed in  
the slightest. This does not mean, however, that every time the `Joke  
release a damp fart, I'm obliged to act like it smells like roses.

Alex in NYC



On Sep 25, 2006, at 7:15 PM, William Lash wrote:

> I actually think Brighter Than is pretty good, better than  
> Electric, at least.  I will agree with you on OTG.  I still don't  
> agree with you on Hossanas.  I think that it is a strong record and  
> has excellent definition, structure and a very solid rhythm  
> section.  I have heard this before regarding  BTTS being an attempt  
> by the Joke to sell-out.  Again, I don't hear it and even thinkh  
> that the record is unique and interesting.  The only record by the  
> Joke I think is shite is OTG, but I do like a couple of songs,  
> Teuhaunaco being one.  The pre-Electric Cult is more edgy and I  
> think excellent, but it's no Killing Joke, not even close.  There  
> is a spirit and energy in Killing Jokes music that for me very few  
> bands have even come close to.  The Cult is not one.  Isn't that  
> why we are here, why we obsess with this band?   Isn't that why  
> there is a Gathering?  Killing Joke shouldn't be compared to The Cult.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Fair enough, Bill -- though I think you're a bit harsh on the Cult,  
> there. Moreover, the Cult's pre-ELECTRIC incarnations are closer to  
> the `Joke than you realize. Regardless, their mophing into a goofy  
> metal band is no more ludicrous than the `Joke's attempt to morph  
> into a comparatively slick singles act circa BRIGHTER THAN A  
> THOUSAND SUNS (to say nothing of OUTSIDE THE GATE).
>
> My feelings about ELECTRIC being better than HOSANNAS stem from the  
> fact that --regardless of style and/or subject matter and/or length  
> of the players' hair -- ELECTRIC is a better *sounding* record with  
> *fully fleshed out songs* that was recorded with some degree of  
> finesse with a regard to how the finished product was going to  
> sound. HOSANNAS, meanwhile, lacks definition, structure, cohesion  
> and the sound of a discernible rhythm section. Thus, ELECTRIC  
> remains the superior album in terms of (my) listening enjoyment.
>
> Alex in NYC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Lash
> Sent: Sep 25, 2006 6:16 PM
> To: Alex Smith , "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> Subject: Re: [kj] RE: CULT
>
> OK, I've sat back and read all about the Cult and I'll admit I  
> thought they were a great band, but I wouldn't even put them in the  
> same league as KJ.  Firstly, the Cult and KJ are completely  
> different styles and even genres of music.  The Cult is primarily a  
> good Rock N Roll band, but there music never brings out the  
> emotions that KJ music does.  This is especially true with  
> Hossanas.  Comparing Electric to Hossanas is ludicrous.  There is  
> no comparison.  There is nothing similar!  They are actually almost  
> opposites.   Electric is a boring Rock N Roll record with a couple  
> of catchy tunes with very sellable names like "Wild Flower" and  
> "Lil Devil".  Hossanas goes way deeper and paints a picture of the  
> way the World is today like it or not.  I frankly am sick of the  
> catchy music that sells well.  I want hear music that moves me.   
> Yeah every so often it is nice to rock out and get pissed and not  
> think about much and the Cult, especially, Electric work perfectly.
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