[kj] RE: CULT
Daniel Corvo
danielcorvo at hotmail.co.uk
Tue Sep 26 10:12:02 EDT 2006
Damp fart is harsh to say the least..
>From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>To: William Lash <wjlash at yahoo.com>
>CC: "A list about all things Killing Joke ((the
>band!))"<gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] RE: CULT
>Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 07:42:43 -0400
>
>
>"Isn't that why we are here, why we obsess with this band? Isn't that
>why there is a Gathering? Killing Joke shouldn't be compared to The Cult.
>"
>
>
>Yes -- GOD FORBID any of us DARE think for ourselves or have an opinion
>that strays from the party line.
>
>Just because I think HOSANNAS is an *UNDERCOOKED* album (and it is) and
>because I like ELECTRIC by the Cult (whom the `Joke are peers of -- like
>it or not) does not mean my faith in the `Joke is swayed in the slightest.
>This does not mean, however, that every time the `Joke release a damp
>fart, I'm obliged to act like it smells like roses.
>
>Alex in NYC
>
>
>
>On Sep 25, 2006, at 7:15 PM, William Lash wrote:
>
>>I actually think Brighter Than is pretty good, better than Electric, at
>>least. I will agree with you on OTG. I still don't agree with you on
>>Hossanas. I think that it is a strong record and has excellent
>>definition, structure and a very solid rhythm section. I have heard this
>>before regarding BTTS being an attempt by the Joke to sell-out. Again,
>>I don't hear it and even thinkh that the record is unique and
>>interesting. The only record by the Joke I think is shite is OTG, but I
>>do like a couple of songs, Teuhaunaco being one. The pre-Electric Cult
>>is more edgy and I think excellent, but it's no Killing Joke, not even
>>close. There is a spirit and energy in Killing Jokes music that for me
>>very few bands have even come close to. The Cult is not one. Isn't that
>> why we are here, why we obsess with this band? Isn't that why there
>>is a Gathering? Killing Joke shouldn't be compared to The Cult.
>>
>>Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>Fair enough, Bill -- though I think you're a bit harsh on the Cult,
>>there. Moreover, the Cult's pre-ELECTRIC incarnations are closer to the
>>`Joke than you realize. Regardless, their mophing into a goofy metal band
>>is no more ludicrous than the `Joke's attempt to morph into a
>>comparatively slick singles act circa BRIGHTER THAN A THOUSAND SUNS (to
>>say nothing of OUTSIDE THE GATE).
>>
>>My feelings about ELECTRIC being better than HOSANNAS stem from the fact
>>that --regardless of style and/or subject matter and/or length of the
>>players' hair -- ELECTRIC is a better *sounding* record with *fully
>>fleshed out songs* that was recorded with some degree of finesse with a
>>regard to how the finished product was going to sound. HOSANNAS,
>>meanwhile, lacks definition, structure, cohesion and the sound of a
>>discernible rhythm section. Thus, ELECTRIC remains the superior album in
>>terms of (my) listening enjoyment.
>>
>>Alex in NYC
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: William Lash
>>Sent: Sep 25, 2006 6:16 PM
>>To: Alex Smith , "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>Subject: Re: [kj] RE: CULT
>>
>>OK, I've sat back and read all about the Cult and I'll admit I thought
>>they were a great band, but I wouldn't even put them in the same league
>>as KJ. Firstly, the Cult and KJ are completely different styles and even
>>genres of music. The Cult is primarily a good Rock N Roll band, but
>>there music never brings out the emotions that KJ music does. This is
>>especially true with Hossanas. Comparing Electric to Hossanas is
>>ludicrous. There is no comparison. There is nothing similar! They are
>>actually almost opposites. Electric is a boring Rock N Roll record with
>>a couple of catchy tunes with very sellable names like "Wild Flower" and
>>"Lil Devil". Hossanas goes way deeper and paints a picture of the way
>>the World is today like it or not. I frankly am sick of the catchy music
>>that sells well. I want hear music that moves me. Yeah every so often
>>it is nice to rock out and get pissed and not think about much and the
>>Cult, especially, Electric work perfectly.
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