[kj] Top 10 and the

[Alex Smith]

Valclav Havel would probably beg to differ.

Alex in NYC




-----Original Message-----

>From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

>Sent: Apr 2, 2007 11:16 PM

>To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" <gathering at misera.net>

>Subject: Re: [kj] Top 10  and the "throwback" era

>

>Do you guys believe rock or even "popular music" has changed the world in

>any real way? I mean, I believe it has changed individual lives, provides a

>lot of people with entertainment and inspiration etc, but in the scheme of

>things, it's really only been around 50 years or so, compare that to any of

>the empires or religions. And how influential is it really? In terms of

>trends etc, sure, perhaps it is. But compared to any of the wars,

>totalitatian regimes, doctrines of thought, philosophy, religion, science,

>politics, economics, laws, etc...I don't think personally it's been very

>influential on a global level. 

>

>Just my current opinion...

>

>-----Original Message-----

>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On

>Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard

>Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2007 10:40 a.m.

>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>Subject: Re: [kj] Top 10 and the "throwback" era

>

>Punk rock is a type of rock n' roll. To a lot of people it was the 

>quintessential means of setting rock 'n roll back on its proper, 

>rebellious course, and away from the "mistaken" turn it had taken in the 

>early 70s and later in the form of arena rock, prog rock, stuff like 

>Yes, ELO, Foghat, Journey, Emerson, Lake, and Palmer, Genesis, etc.

>

>But ultimately, what started the ship sailing is, yeah, by definition, 

>more seminal. Lydia Lunch, in 1979 or so, in the midst of New York's 

>no-wave thingy, complained that when she heard punk all she heard was 

>sped up Chuck Berry riffs. Well, yeah! Chuck Berry kicked ass! (She 

>meant it as an insult to distinguish no wave from punk rock.)

>

>-Oliver

>

>

>ade wrote:

>> We go on about punk being revolutionary - nowhere near as world-changing

>> as Rock'n'Roll was.

>>

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