[kj] hes still a punk ;-)

[folk devil]

2 good references:
www.punk77.co.uk
&
the filth and the fury...watched after the great rock n roll swindle ;)



>From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

><gathering at misera.net>

>Subject: Re: [kj] hes still a punk ;-)

>Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:25:49 +1200 (NZST)

>

>I'm just in the process of vetting Lydon for entry into my Hall of

>Superheroes, have to check his references...you don't get to sit next to

>Zappa, Coleman, Hendrix, Page etc in my nervous system that easily...not

>without at least 5 minutes of Google research...

>

> >

> > It's invariably an inexact science, Brendan. Choose whom you want to

> > believe and go with that. I don't think it's as crass as McLaren

> > wanting to specifically cater to an audience for the almighty pound

> > note (despite the whole "Cash From Caos" shtick), but he was

> > certainly inspired by what he'd encountered in NYC. For all intents

> > and purposes (GET READY, BRITS), McLaren projected his own

> > interpretation of what Richard Hell was already doing onto the future

> > `Pistols.

> >

> > Alex in NYC

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On Aug 9, 2007, at 7:23 PM, Brendan wrote:

> >

> >> How does Malcolm McLaren being a tosser obviate the 'Don from

> >> complicity

> >> to divest the public of their hard earned dollars in support of a band

> >> that was put together with the dollar sign in mind? He is always

> >> railing

> >> against unoriginal music being put out to cater to a specific

> >> audience for

> >> monetary reasons. So what I want to know is: was 'punk' already

> >> happening

> >> (Ramones)in the US, and were the Sex Pistols put together to

> >> capitalise,

> >> and was Lydon chosen because of his image?

> >>

> >> If that's true no problems, he obviously turned it around with PIL,

> >> but I

> >> would like to know. I may have to look authorative about this stuff

> >> at a

> >> party one day ;)

> >>

> >> So stop trying to send me down intellectual cul de sacs!

> >>

> >> In the cul de sac, turn back on the track, in the cul de sac!

> >>

> >> ;p

> >>

> >>> Because Malcolm McClaren is a tosser. Look what he did to the

> >>> ants...the

> >>> origins of hip hop and much more...complete w*nker...

> >>>

> >>> 'the Public Image belongs to me' ;)

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>> From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

> >>>> Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

> >>>> band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

> >>>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> >>>> <gathering at misera.net>

> >>>> Subject: Re: [kj] hes still a punk  ;-)

> >>>> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:27:29 +1200 (NZST)

> >>>>

> >>>> Can someone explain to me Lydon's rationale for his massive

> >>>> negativity

> >>>> about other musicians (except Kate Bush), when the Sex Pistols were

> >>>> originally put together to cater to a particular audience and he was

> >>>> selected because of his image?

> >>>>

> >>>>

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