[kj] hes still a punk ;-)

Brendan bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Fri Aug 10 00:22:03 EDT 2007


I agree that the bands are cool, but I'll agree to disagree with you about
the talking shite, see your point though...it's almost performance art.

I really do like the comparison with JC, can't think of anyone closer, not
that I am up on all that.



> Lydon should be held in high esteem, if anything. He was involved in not

> one but TWO amazing bands (PiL at least started off amazing), both of

> which sounded completely different from each other. Metal Box in

> particular is shit hot. Apart from all that, he can say whatever he wants,

> do whatever, go on and on about how much everything sucks and everyone is

> stupid. It's all part of his schtick. I think the mark he's made on music

> is indelible.

>

> Leigh

>

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: B. Oliver Sheppard <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> <gathering at misera.net>

> Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2007 10:23:16 PM

> Subject: Re: [kj] hes still a punk ;-)

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> Also, here is a young John Lydon and Keith Levene, as PiL, in '78 or so,

> on the late Tom Snyder's nightly talk show, being pretty "punk":

>

> PART 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OirTyITUJ1Y

>

> PART 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbZey9kBBvI

>

> Has Lydon's comment about "they play rock and roll in airports now.

> That's, like, about as far as it can progress." Well, I think it should

> be a famous comment. Otherwise he's being sort of a douche to Tom, but

> Tom is also being a douche, as most journos were to punk bands at that

> time, almost reflexively acting like assholes around punk bands. They

> should save it for the politicians.

>

> -Oliver

>

>

>

>

>

> B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:

>> I saw that interview. He was also pretty damn drunk, and made some

>> awkward comments to the African-American actor next to him (whose name

>> I forget) about how in England they don't have race problems like us

>> in the US and he's been to Africa to see gorillas, etc., etc. That

>> part was kind of weird.

>>

>> -Oliver

>>

>> GREG SLAWSON wrote:

>>> Johnny did an interview on a US talk show (Jimmy Kimmel?) just after

>>> they refused to show up to the rock and roll Hall of Fame dinner and

>>> he was, as most British bands say at the end of gigs, "fucking

>>> brilliant"> He gave a great defense of the Pistols and made it clear

>>> that they want nothing to do w/the rock-n-roll corporate mainstream,

>>> and gave a sense that the Pistols live on as a cultural force...Wish

>>> I had taped it...

>>>

>>

>>

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