[kj] OT: "Punk's Not Dead" documentary

Christof hamille wessidetempest at hotmail.com
Fri Aug 10 09:54:14 EDT 2007


My first three records were bought in 1978. Kiss - Alive, Joan Jett and the
Blackhearts - I Love Rock 'n' Roll and the Ramones -s/t

Punk as a lifestyle, for me, didn't really come into play until I was 12 or
13 (1985 - first punk show, unless you want to count Joan Jett in 1979 at
the State Fair headlining above the Beach Boys, Negative Approach) and a lot
of that had to do with skateboarding.

I got the shit pummelled out of me all the time. Not only at school but on
the streets. I would get chased out of stores. Just for looking "weird".
I was denied entrance into Disney World for wearing a Death Cult t-shirt. I
already paid money. I was already into the first part of the park. I had
to flip it inside out or leave and NOT get my money back. This was 1988.

And then in the 90's it was chic. I wasn't being "weird" for shock value or
to be ahead of the curve. It was just a way of life that somehow made
sense. And still does today. Even though I am not wearing big, heavy
motocross boots or have red dreads or stink or whatever else I did at the
time. Honestly I am just to lazy today to be bothered.

I guess the hippies felt the same way. I don't know. I'm not a hippy

Chris


>From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

><gathering at misera.net>

>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: "Punk's Not Dead" documentary

>Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:51:30 -0500

>

>I think you are right.

>

>I'm not old enough to have participated in the original '77 explosion of

>punk, but am old to at least claimed I was into it before the punk cultural

>9/11 that was the release of Nirvana's _Neverind_, when suddenly everyone

>had retroactively been into punk all along and loved it, really, it

>suddenly seemed like. Radio station formats changed overnight and the same

>DJs that just weeks earlier had been spinning New Kids on the Block and The

>Escape Club were not switching to alt-rock, acting like they'd always been

>into it, hoping no one would notice.

>

>Now it's more punk to write books about book or make documentaries about it

>than it is to actually make punk rock music, it seems like. There are

>shitloads of new documentaries every month. The implication in a lot of it,

>by older 30-somethings and 40 something who make it, is "Boy did you

>youngsters really miss out! Too bad..."

>

>Fuck Against Me! too.

>

>Kicked out of school in the 80s for wearing Pushead/Misfits & Septic Death

>shirts in Tipper Gore/PMRC Amerikkka,

>

>-Oliver

>

>

>

>

>culturevirus wrote:

>>The sad truth is we've become self-congratulatory wankers just like the

>>hippies before us. When teenage rebellion is packaged for your convenience

>>and available at the local mall punk truly is dead. The reality is every

>>generation thinks they invented sex and rebellion, it's only when we get

>>older we realize we're just doing what's natural. If only we had the

>>humility to own up to it.

>>

>>

>>I am culturevirus

>>

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