[kj] Killing joke and Communism

[Frank Frik]

And perhaps British labour goverment wouldn't be offended...lnew labour from communists is not that far....swastica defended/and do  the ''conservationist democrat centrist right wing. partys''. 

Mister Black <ssssssssss at fsmail.net> wrote:    image designed to shock and offend (witness Alex Cox's revisionist switching of the swastika to the soviet hammer-n'-sickle symbol on Sid Vicious' red t-shirt in the slavishly overrated "Sid & Nancy.")"
   
  :) Why did the editor  do that? Maybe it was to offend all the original punks who went to see the movie . Would that be classed as ironic? Left wing punks being offended because they took Sids Swastika off and replaced it with a Hammer and Sickle !!!!!!!!!. Makes me chuckle thinking about it . Is that the ultimate offensive statement , the only person in the whole world who wouldnt be offended by that is Greg
  




 
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Message Received: Aug 21 2007, 06:48 PM
From: "Alexander Smith" 
To: ssssssssss at fsmail.net, "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [kj] Killing joke and Communism

  

  I have to say, I've always been somewhat baffled by the hammer-n'-sickle iconography as well. My guess is that it's merely an appropriation of an image designed to shock and offend (witness Alex Cox's revisionist switching of the swastika to the soviet hammer-n'-sickle symbol on Sid Vicious' red t-shirt in the slavishly overrated "Sid & Nancy.")
  

   Killing Joke -- much like many of their post-punk peers -- always seemed to flirt with Cold War imagery, so I'm guessing it stems from that. I don't believe they espouse any Leninist ideals, however.
  

  Could be wrong, though.
  

  Alex in NYC
  


    On Aug 21, 2007, at 1:15 PM, Mister Black wrote:

    I dont recall Killing Joke ever supporting the Communist cause , they have on numerous occasions rejected the Capitalist  school of thought , but theyve never actually come out if favour of Communism , so I cannot understand why the Hammer and Syckle featured on the cover of the live DVD . Have Killing Joke ever given their support to any Politicians or Political party ?
    

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