[kj] Killing joke and Communism

[Frank Frik]

Yes, Captain Black. Hell, I get these weels on the way back from South Africa. 2 missiles got Brasil. Don't remind me that crap.  Now about hurricanes they are fucking complaining..
   
  Just after fighting in youtube. There is the other German explaining meanings...finished was with the sentence  ''The US sucks''. Germans getting nice fights. 

Mister Black <ssssssssss at fsmail.net> wrote:
    Is that a Rammstein song , Lieutenant Frank ?
  And isn't Kaka Brazilian ?





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Message Received: Aug 21 2007, 10:47 PM
From: "Frank Frik" 
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [kj] Killing joke and Communism

Alex. chicka chica wack wack   kakakakakakakaka  wack wack......kakakakakakakaka

Brendan wrote:   wah-wah-chikka-wah...


> Che Guevara shirts are ubiquitous here in the States, yet quiz the

> average person wearing one about who he was and/or what he represents

> (let alone what his name was or where he was from) and you'll

> probably be met with a blank stare.

>

> I blame Rage Against the Machine.

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

>

>

> On Aug 21, 2007, at 5:07 PM, Mister Black wrote:

>

>> Che Gue Vara :

>> Where does he fit in? Is his image rebellious or offensive or is

>> it something that is adhered to? Does anyone own a Che Gue Vara T-

>> shirt? I think that they look so naff , I cant see anyone on this

>> list owing a Che Gue Vara t-shirt or poster , except for maybe Tin .

>>

>> ========================================

>> Message Received: Aug 21 2007, 09:55 PM

>> From: "B. Oliver Sheppard"

>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

>> Cc:

>> Subject: Re: [kj] Killing joke and Communism

>>

>> I like the Killng Joke hammer & sickle logo. I'm pretty sure Alex is

>> right that it is an ultimately meaningless thing, a kind of punk-era

>> playing with ideological symbols of the past to be provocative -- the

>> Sex Pistols wore swastikas, they did also wear commie symbols (and not

>> just in the Alex Cox movie) while bands like Durruti Column were named

>> after an anarchist band, and Crass of course employed the crossed-out

>> cross and circle-A, though, dammit, they were serious. Punk started

>> all

>> that "let;s use provocative political symbols to get a rise out of

>> people" stuff.

>>

>> A few years ago there was a trend of army green messenger bags with

>> red

>> stars on them, or black shirts with a big red star on the, probably

>> intended to invoke associations w/ communism and/or anarcho-

>> syndicalism.

>> Of these are all made by capitalist outfitters. It's one of those

>> punk-started things that percolated up into mass market conusmerist

>> culture.

>>

>> Jaz's political statements have been so wild and varied over the

>> years I

>> dunno where to consistently place him on any scale.

>>

>> They also used Nazis saluting a pope! One of my fave band-appropriated

>> images ever used. :)

>>

>> -Oliver

>>

>>

>> Frank Frik wrote:

>> > And perhaps British labour goverment wouldn't be offended...lnew

>> > labour from communists is not that far....swastica defended/and do

>> > the ''conservationist democrat centrist right wing. partys''.

>> >

>> > */Mister Black /* wrote:

>>

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