[kj] INEPSY Re: In Defense of Hosannas

[Christof hamille]

I have to be honest Oliver I never cared for them.  I have their 12" and a 
7" split and I jsut can't get into it.  For me it is a heard it seen it done 
it



>From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

><gathering at misera.net>

>Subject: [kj] INEPSY Re:  In Defense of Hosannas

>Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 08:23:23 -0500

>

>This relates to Hosannas, but it also relates to someone asking what some 

>good contemporary metal bands were/are:

>

>INEPSY:

>

>http://www.myspace.com/inepsy

>

>If you don't like it, you suck. Any of these songs could easily go on a mix 

>tape with KJ's "Implosion" and Motorhead's "Ace of Spades."

>

>-Oliver

>

>

>B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:

>>Actually, I love Hosannas but feel like I come from more a punk 

>>background, not a metal background -- hardcore punk, instead of just 

>>neon-glow colored UK Subs-y '77 melodic punk, though.

>>

>>(You can be punk without being hardcore punk, but you cannot be hardcore 

>>without being punk -- anyone who says otherwise doesn't know history).

>>

>>Hosannas is a great slogging, sludgy album that coincidentally sounds like 

>>a lot of underground hardcore punk being made these days (minus the 

>>orchestral parts in some of Hosannas). KJ BOASTE it was being made on 

>>'79-era analog equipment, in a dark cold dungeon in Eastern European. It 

>>is not some ProTools, slick, affair.

>>

>>When I say Hosannas coincidentally reminds me of contemporary hardcore DIY 

>>underground punk, even some crust, what I'm talking about is the 

>>trajectory of punk that is along the lines of Amebix, Nausea, and more 

>>recently Born Dead Icons and their side-project The Complications (who are 

>>named after a Killing Joke song and whom I interviewed: 

>>http://www.cultpunk.com/?m=20061117 ), Tragedy, World Burns to Death, 

>>Zygote, and some Japanese dark hardcore.

>>

>>I know that Jaz, Geordie, et. al., are probably totally unaware of these 

>>bands and don't listen to them at all. But that they made an LP that in 

>>many respects ends up sounding like some of these bands anyway -- that's 

>>what really brought my full attention back onto KJ, who of course like 

>>anyone into punk I'd heard of off and on over the months and years. A 

>>tendency in a lot of underground hardcore now is to incorporate a heavy 

>>Motorhead influence. Born Dead Icons do this; Inepsy do this; The 

>>Complications do it; Black Panda does it. (Look these bands' MySpace 

>>profiles up - esp. Inepsy).

>>

>>

>>Track 1 - "The Tribal Antidote" is a great, churning slogfest of a song. 

>>It reminds me of Amebix, but also has shades of "Absent Friends" off 

>>Democracy -- very similar riff.

>>

>>Track 2 - "Hosannas" -- a d-beat song! Sounds like it'll be a 

>>by-the-numbers thrash vehicle, but Jaz adds in melodic vocals that remind 

>>of the dark British post-punk band The Mob. It's nice to hear KJ belt out 

>>something folks can really circle pit to. Also, it bears a resemblance to 

>>the very early Venom song "Sons of satan," which had an impact on late 80s 

>>crossover punk-metal thrash.

>>

>>"Implosion" -- total Motorhead worship all the way on this song! What's 

>>not to love? Seriously? If you like Motorhead-style NWOBHM stuff, why 

>>isn't this good?

>>

>>I have no problem with Jaz exploring the more Lemmy-esque side of hs 

>>vocals. He cand o it great. I wish I had his vocals. He can go fromt hat 

>>to sounding like the same New Romantic British guy crooning out "New Day." 

>>How manyf olks have that vocal capability?

>>

>>

>>And that this is all coming from a band that played with Joy Division in 

>>the dog days -- it's just kind of incredible.

>>

>>There is another band I've recently gotten into -- Bone Awl -- who come 

>>from the black metal scene. Coincidentally, they sound like a lot of 

>>Japanese and Scandinavian hardcore, though they probably have no idea they 

>>sound like this, so coincidentally they've begun to attract a punk 

>>following, which they must be scratching their heads about. That's how I 

>>feel about Hosannas. It sounds like a lot of the very good underground 

>>hardcore being put out by some cool bands now (seriously, look up Inepsy, 

>>for example), but KJ are probably oblivious to this fact (I can't imagine 

>>Jaz sitting down with Tragedy's _Nerve Damage_ LP, or World Burns to 

>>Death's _Totalitarian Sodomy_ though I think he would actually like them), 

>>which sort of makes it even cooler.

>>

>>

>>-Oliver

>>

>>

>>Brendan wrote:

>>No, come on! Invocation is epic, Gratitude is epic and a half, upsized

>>with extra cheese and sparkles, Death and Ressurection show is cool...um,

>>and some of the lyrics in the other songs are pretty cool...

>>

>>I think the main difference is that it appeals more to people with Metal

>>sensibilities vs you filthy punks...? =)

>>

>>PS: Alex did you get around to descecrating Appetite for Destruction,

>>after your Patti Smith rant I'd love to read it, even though I am a big

>>fan of Appetite. I can take it...I think. =)

>>

>>  With the utmost respect to Oliver and the contingency he represents,

>>let me just say this:

>>

>>HOSANNAS is far and away the WORST THING Killing Joke have ever done.

>>YES --> worse than OTG.

>>

>>Heh.

>>

>>Alex in NYC

>>

>>

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