[kj] INEPSY Re: In Defense of Hosannas

[Christof hamille]

If you got the shit out of your eyeballs and actually read the post (and 
tried not to skew it in your favor).  You would notice that the quote was 
not from the band but the poster.

You may not like them (if you've even stopped to listen) but it is weak of 
you to try to change things to bloat your selfless worth.




>From: Frank Frik <frankfrik at yahoo.com>

>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

><gathering at misera.net>

>Subject: Re: [kj] INEPSY Re: In Defense of Hosannas

>Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 06:50:50 -0700 (PDT)

>

>Inepsy wrote below: 'if you dont like it, you suck''.

>

>   I hate it, so I ....what?       Come on, bring it on!

>

>   Frank

>

>Christof hamille <wessidetempest at hotmail.com> wrote:

>   I have to be honest Oliver I never cared for them. I have their 12" and 

>a

>7" split and I jsut can't get into it. For me it is a heard it seen it done

>it

>

>

> >From: "B. Oliver Sheppard"

> >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

> >band!)"

> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> >

> >Subject: [kj] INEPSY Re: In Defense of Hosannas

> >Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 08:23:23 -0500

> >

> >This relates to Hosannas, but it also relates to someone asking what some

> >good contemporary metal bands were/are:

> >

> >INEPSY:

> >

> >http://www.myspace.com/inepsy

> >

> >If you don't like it, you suck. Any of these songs could easily go on a 

>mix

> >tape with KJ's "Implosion" and Motorhead's "Ace of Spades."

> >

> >-Oliver

> >

> >

> >B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:

> >>Actually, I love Hosannas but feel like I come from more a punk

> >>background, not a metal background -- hardcore punk, instead of just

> >>neon-glow colored UK Subs-y '77 melodic punk, though.

> >>

> >>(You can be punk without being hardcore punk, but you cannot be hardcore

> >>without being punk -- anyone who says otherwise doesn't know history).

> >>

> >>Hosannas is a great slogging, sludgy album that coincidentally sounds 

>like

> >>a lot of underground hardcore punk being made these days (minus the

> >>orchestral parts in some of Hosannas). KJ BOASTE it was being made on

> >>'79-era analog equipment, in a dark cold dungeon in Eastern European. It

> >>is not some ProTools, slick, affair.

> >>

> >>When I say Hosannas coincidentally reminds me of contemporary hardcore 

>DIY

> >>underground punk, even some crust, what I'm talking about is the

> >>trajectory of punk that is along the lines of Amebix, Nausea, and more

> >>recently Born Dead Icons and their side-project The Complications (who 

>are

> >>named after a Killing Joke song and whom I interviewed:

> >>http://www.cultpunk.com/?m=20061117 ), Tragedy, World Burns to Death,

> >>Zygote, and some Japanese dark hardcore.

> >>

> >>I know that Jaz, Geordie, et. al., are probably totally unaware of these

> >>bands and don't listen to them at all. But that they made an LP that in

> >>many respects ends up sounding like some of these bands anyway -- that's

> >>what really brought my full attention back onto KJ, who of course like

> >>anyone into punk I'd heard of off and on over the months and years. A

> >>tendency in a lot of underground hardcore now is to incorporate a heavy

> >>Motorhead influence. Born Dead Icons do this; Inepsy do this; The

> >>Complications do it; Black Panda does it. (Look these bands' MySpace

> >>profiles up - esp. Inepsy).

> >>

> >>

> >>Track 1 - "The Tribal Antidote" is a great, churning slogfest of a song.

> >>It reminds me of Amebix, but also has shades of "Absent Friends" off

> >>Democracy -- very similar riff.

> >>

> >>Track 2 - "Hosannas" -- a d-beat song! Sounds like it'll be a

> >>by-the-numbers thrash vehicle, but Jaz adds in melodic vocals that 

>remind

> >>of the dark British post-punk band The Mob. It's nice to hear KJ belt 

>out

> >>something folks can really circle pit to. Also, it bears a resemblance 

>to

> >>the very early Venom song "Sons of satan," which had an impact on late 

>80s

> >>crossover punk-metal thrash.

> >>

> >>"Implosion" -- total Motorhead worship all the way on this song! What's

> >>not to love? Seriously? If you like Motorhead-style NWOBHM stuff, why

> >>isn't this good?

> >>

> >>I have no problem with Jaz exploring the more Lemmy-esque side of hs

> >>vocals. He cand o it great. I wish I had his vocals. He can go fromt hat

> >>to sounding like the same New Romantic British guy crooning out "New 

>Day."

> >>How manyf olks have that vocal capability?

> >>

> >>

> >>And that this is all coming from a band that played with Joy Division in

> >>the dog days -- it's just kind of incredible.

> >>

> >>There is another band I've recently gotten into -- Bone Awl -- who come

> >>from the black metal scene. Coincidentally, they sound like a lot of

> >>Japanese and Scandinavian hardcore, though they probably have no idea 

>they

> >>sound like this, so coincidentally they've begun to attract a punk

> >>following, which they must be scratching their heads about. That's how I

> >>feel about Hosannas. It sounds like a lot of the very good underground

> >>hardcore being put out by some cool bands now (seriously, look up 

>Inepsy,

> >>for example), but KJ are probably oblivious to this fact (I can't 

>imagine

> >>Jaz sitting down with Tragedy's _Nerve Damage_ LP, or World Burns to

> >>Death's _Totalitarian Sodomy_ though I think he would actually like 

>them),

> >>which sort of makes it even cooler.

> >>

> >>

> >>-Oliver

> >>

> >>

> >>Brendan wrote:

> >>No, come on! Invocation is epic, Gratitude is epic and a half, upsized

> >>with extra cheese and sparkles, Death and Ressurection show is 

>cool...um,

> >>and some of the lyrics in the other songs are pretty cool...

> >>

> >>I think the main difference is that it appeals more to people with Metal

> >>sensibilities vs you filthy punks...? =)

> >>

> >>PS: Alex did you get around to descecrating Appetite for Destruction,

> >>after your Patti Smith rant I'd love to read it, even though I am a big

> >>fan of Appetite. I can take it...I think. =)

> >>

> >> With the utmost respect to Oliver and the contingency he represents,

> >>let me just say this:

> >>

> >>HOSANNAS is far and away the WORST THING Killing Joke have ever done.

> >>YES --> worse than OTG.

> >>

> >>Heh.

> >>

> >>Alex in NYC

> >>

> >>

> >

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