[kj] Killing joke and Communism

[Leigh Newton]

Oliver, stop engaging Peter aka Mister Black/Frank Frik in a serious conversation. I mean it.

----- Original Message ----
From: B. Oliver Sheppard <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:28:07 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Killing joke and Communism


/Same rules for rich and poor:

"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor 
to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread." -- 
Anatole France, The Red Lily, 1894, chapter 7. French novelist (1844 - 1924)


And as far as idealism: It think it's naive (which is what you seem to 
mean by "idealist") to think corporations will be well behaved if they 
aren't constantly challenged and held responsible for their actions. 
Ideally, they'd have sterling characters. In reality, they don't. It 
isn't idealistic to insist they act in the public interest. But it is 
irresponsible to to engage in excuse-making and rationalizations when 
they don't.

-Oliver

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> */Mister Black <ssssssssss at fsmail.net>/* wrote:

>

>     There is another problem with your suggestion that the Banks execs

>     should pay for the losses . We must have the same rules for

>     everyone , rich and poor . So are you suggesting that any losses

>     incurred by the employee should be paid for by said employee? If a

>     McDonald's worker leaves the chips on and the store burns down ,

>     should he have to pay all the store re-building costs and all

>     other costs incurred? Should a pilot have to pay for a new

>     aeroplane if he crashes his one?

>      Your ideas arent very well thought out Oliver . Also , if an

>     banking exec knew that he would be liable for any losses incurred

>     , then he would never even take the job in the first place , no

>     one would dare take the job . The position would be unfillable. On

>     the bankers C.V. there will be the information that he was working

>     for a bank that went bust , isnt that punishment enough ?

>       Just like all your ideas Oliver , idealist , not thought through

>     and they dont make much sense .

>


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