[kj] OT: Boyd Rice / NON & Luftwaffe coming to London Oct. 31

[countessghoulita at aol.com]

 I know you are no fascist. I wanted to add some info on Boyd Rice. Some of the NON old stuff is really great, if you ask me. I have a lot of old Death in June records myself. In the last years, it is pretty appalling to  see a Laibach, Death In June (with NON and, of course, Der Blutharsch) and being confronted with a nazi audience. That is all I wanted to say. I do like old-school industrial, liked Death in June/Current 93/Sol Invictus but I do not think I would go to their gigs anymore. I am happy with my memories of their gigs back in the late 80's/90's, as nazi-oriented folks would not prevail in the audience. My family was already proven by WWII enough for me not to remember the atrocities they went through. I cannot see nazi outfits or signs on the stage, that is all.


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: B. Oliver Sheppard <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Boyd Rice / NON & Luftwaffe coming to London Oct. 31









Luftwaffe play a Death in June-y type of neo-folk that I have heard and 
am not really a fan of. Luftwaffe played in Dallas, TX, not too long 
ago, oddly enough. Guys in German army replica uniforms strumming 
acoustic guitars has always seemed kind of funny to me.?
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I posted the gig info because there are a lot of crossover type fans 
between KJ's music and the sort of stuff that goes on in that 
martial/neo-folk/whatever scene. I do like some music in that scene, but 
I think I've proven on the list I'm as lefty as they come (much to Mr. 
Black's delight) and there's plenty of non-fascist or anti-fascist music 
in the milieu, or bands who use the imagery ironically, a la Killing 
Joke's "Nazis saluting the pope" poster.?
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Boyd Rice is pretty bizarre. He's appeared on specials about neo-Nazis 
and Satanism. He was also in RE/Search's _Pranks_ video -- and so there 
is the theory he's basically a cultural prankster, playing with 
provocative imagery for the fuck of it, simply to stir people up, not 
really because he's a militant follower of anything in particular. The 
now-withdrawn book Battlenoise!, about the history of martial industrial 
music, chided Rice for not being serious enough in his music, in fact. 
The guy has never really seemed threatening to me and if I saw he was 
playing locally I'd probably go see him. For all his faults, NON was 
kind of a pioneering thing, like Throbbing Gristle.?
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-Oliver?
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countessghoulita at aol.com wrote:?


> well, be prepared to see a lot of nazis in the venue. I saw Boyd Rice 

> opening for Death in June twice (1998 and 2002). Got to say, he 

> impresses and repels non-nazis at the same time. His doubtless nazi 

> oufit, swastikas decorating the stage and instruments, the sampling of 

> antiaircraft alarms are his more signature than his satanism. He is 

> playing with Luftwaffe, this name is enough said. It is no Cernunnos, 

> the beast, Anton LaVey, etc...?



> On a side note, Boyd Rice was friend to Fad Gadget. He cooperated with 

> Fad Gadget on the release of "Easy Listening for the Hard Hearing" in 

> 1984 (fad Gadget appears here with his real name, Frank Tovey. Old 

> school industrial. That is the Boyd Rice I like.?



>?



> I found another video on "Total War" perfectly matching with the 

> lyrics....it is an old Walt Disney's propaganda cartoon:?



> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhxLovB2d68?



>?



> Official website:?



> http://www.boydrice.com/home.html?

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