[kj] philosophucky

Brendan Quinn bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Fri Dec 21 15:08:12 EST 2007


My point is really that the statement was too broad in scope, Nietzsche had
a propensity for trying to be as concise as possible, in which he was hugely
successful but I feel you reach a point where you try to throw too much of
the universe into a single rule, .e.g. which interpretation of life you
choose to use *can be* a function a lots of things, not JUST the prevailing
belief system of the power elite. Other factors are personal experience,
religious beliefs, political beliefs, emotional bias, chemical balance of
the brain, influence and control from those around you, the prevailing
zeitgeist of your culture / subculture etc.



Pls explain what you found odd about my posting, I can't remember asking
about that quote.and I don't really have particularly strong opinions about
Freemasonry. I was invited to join a lodge and was mildly keen up until the
point where I was advised that a pre-requisite was belief in a supreme being
(oh and I would have had to buy a bloody suit, heh :-)). I couldn't / can't
honestly say I have a belief in a supreme being. Very hard to shake the idea
when you're raised as a devout catholic, and that concept is a presence in
your life from your earliest memories.but the supreme being never fucking
checked his voicemail as far as I was concerned, the day I come home and
find a nine-foot high pile of GI Joe toys, train sets, katanas, wings of
icarus, drugs, Ferraris and pussy (all pending prayers not yet answered),
THEN I'll believe in the fucker, I'd even be happy to tithe (!) Until then,
I'm sticking with weird old empirical evidence and reason.



Have always respected the little I know about the Gnostic faith, the 'belief
system' I suppose I subscribe to the most would be the 'model agnosticicism'
of Robert Anton Wilson.which seems quite compatible with Gnosticism.







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True, physics and chemistry bound by the law [power] of nature. Which we're
all bound by....[christ that sounds hippy... ]
btw I'm not a great fan of Nietzsche, although he has a point when it comes
to ideologies, hegemonies and belief systems.. ;)

Also Brendan, your earlier posting on masonry was odd, having asked me where
'in this light [sign]we are victorious' came from previously...

In hoc signo vinces...


> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:50:45 +1300

> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] philosophucky

>

> Not entirely true. Science for example, is not entirely biased or at the

> whim of the power elite. Life's a little more complex than Nietzsche would

> have liked. He's largely right however.

>

> >

> > and back to this ol' chestnut..

> >

> > 'All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation

> > prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth'. -

> > Nietzsche.> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:00:27 +1300> From:

> > bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj]

> > philosophucky> > Ain't the the truth...I mean, ain't that a fac...ain't

> > that how it is? Or> at least, ain't that our, um, perception of how it

> > appears to be based on> the signals coming in to our nervous systems and

> > the way we are hard-wired> and adapted through experience and learning

to

> > experience them> subjectively...> > ;)> > > thats what i said!> > @ : )>

> > >> > aaaaaauuuuuummmmmmmmm> >> > lol> >> >> > On Dec 20, 2007 9:22 PM,

> > bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com> wrote:> >> truth is a human concept...>

> > >> there is no truth, only What Is> >>> >> =)> >

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